West Indian Archie -I’m West Indian! From time to time we’ve touched on the Pimp Game, but mostly to say
- Pimping Ain’t Easy
- We ain’t pimping over here (Rosebudd is on Youtube, if you want to hear an actual pimp talk about the Pimp game, it’s out there. If you want to chop it up, there’s always the UPA)
Why am I bringing up Pimping?
Because it’s the opposite of the word, simping.
Suddenly every Tom, Dick, and Harry is talking about simping.
There are even young dudes talking about Choosing Signals? (I blame AMS for this actually)
What’s next?
- Reckless eyeballing?
- Proximity alerts?
- Gotta bitch going renegade?
This is what Pimp Game sounds like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5TFu8EiUkM
So why are all these AWS certified/SHTF prepper guys talking about simping?
Anyway, just something sticking in my craw. It was bad enough when a certain famous pickup artist stole Chris Rocks’ famous joke, “Who lies more..”
But now they want to horn in on the pimp talk? Without giving credit? Without understanding it?
smh
– West Indian “Square” Archie
Red Pill largely ran by divorce raped middle aged white guys.
They were [and some still are] customers of women.
it’s totally natural for these customers to talk about simping and warn people about it. These guys lived/live it
Arch I just think it’s hit critical mass in general internet parlance. Maybe it’s got something to do with the number of cam girls now, or whatever. I am sure the “red pill mouth breathers” love over using it as much as they did “white knight.” It’s a descriptive term.
From the other thread
“Yet, sadly, many of these women, attractive faces and bodies, are only drawn to men that treat them poorly.”
A brilliant comment on CH… “Imagine how much it must suck if you can only get horny when people (guys) are mean to you?”
It is what it is. And why it is… Is the power dynamic. Women are turned off when they have the power. And turned on when they don’t. Also not having the power means not having the responsibility… Nature knew what it was doing. No matter the tweets and insta posts…
From what I can see… Simping is aspirational these days…
smh
@Sentient
“It is what it is. And why it is… Is the power dynamic. Women are turned off when they have the power. And turned on when they don’t. Also not having the power means not having the responsibility… Nature knew what it was doing. No matter the tweets and insta posts…”
They don’t want any responsibility, they want to totally submit. And it’s not just this one woman:
https://i.imgur.com/r3RrQGz.jpg
It’s all of them:
Even Germaine Greer once said something to the effect “there was only one man she’s ever met capable of sweeping her up in his arms and owning her” and didn’t she yearn for him to return.
“From what I can see… Simping is aspirational these days…“
Nah… they think it’s gonna get them laid bc they believe what they’re told. If like me you lived in the people’s republic of ghey, you’d look around the place at the “Hetro couples” and it would be forever a mystery that these “guys” ever get laid – whatsoever. You just know those women are gonna be out on with the girls in a few years dying to get laid bc they’ve never had an orgasm with a man.
This whole thing is one big societal shit test.
Great stuff Palma. Yeah it’s a shot test we are failing at a remarkable rate.
Abundance Man Signals dude looks like he’s viewed waaaaay too many Tony Robbins-style self-improvement videos and might need to dial back on whatever stimulants he routinely uses.
“Simp” as a term, like “don’t be Simping”, etc. is just a fad that will take a while to fade and be replaced by something else. I think last year there was a little burst of “Red Pill Women” talk in some Manosphere blogs then it just vanished.
Monetizing the Red Pill / The Glasses is difficult, but that doesn’t stop guys from trying. Kind of like “systems” for casinos, somebody always has one they want you to buy and try.
@Sentient
So there has been some work done on this and there’s a lot of tl;dr but long story short, “disciplining” your woman properly takes her to a different head space (sub space), a chemical high. I think if you can do this (it’s actually very easy but it takes time so you can’t be in a rush – which excludes all simps), and for most men it’s a big if, she’ll get a more or less chemical addiction to you (how you make her feel).
You have to be the exact opposite of a simp. I don’t know enough about pimps but it’s definitely closer to that side of the street (issuing punishment?).
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Manuel_Morrens/publication/338384960_Between_Pleasure_and_Pain_A_Pilot_Study_on_the_Biological_Mechanisms_Associated_With_BDSM_Interactions_in_Dominants_and_Submissives/links/5e10425aa6fdcc2837563b4f/Between-Pleasure-and-Pain-A-Pilot-Study-on-the-Biological-Mechanisms-Associated-With-BDSM-Interactions-in-Dominants-and-Submissives.pdf?origin=publication_detail
“So what is “Sub Space” or “Head Space” as it is also called? Subspace is a reaction that is a response to intense stimulation, and is at least partly related to biochemical changes (endorphin release, for example) triggered by physical and emotional stimulation. The sub is very aware, in general, of how they got there and that something major happened, though they may not be able to recall details and generally don’t remember much of what occurred while they were in subspace.
Subspace is an altered state of awareness, one that varies from person to person but in which one’s awareness is changed considerably. Some submissives become so wrapped up in the feelings, to the point that they become unaware of anything else (their surroundings, their individuality, time); others shut off completely, entering a dreamlike state in which they are no longer in control of their actions. During a scene as the sub concentrates on absorbing each touch of their Master’s hand, crop, or cane, they become carried away on the high that is created by the attention, the pain, and the feelings of total submission and trust. As they relax into the scene, fully trusting in the skill of the one they are playing with, with no concern for their safety, the body’s natural chemicals kick in, in response to the stimuli. As the stimulation is increased, the body tenses, the breathing becomes deeper, faster; that’s when the adrenaline rush happens and the endorphins take over. Talk about flying!
Depending on the speed at which one gets there, and the intensity of the high, there seem to be several almost unmanageable factors that one needs to be aware of. Things like how far into subspace has she gone, how well is she reacting to it, are there any physiological signs that should be noticed? Things like breathing rate, sounds, sweating, the possibility of fitting should all be in the mind at this time.
If you have a good relationship and know what “makes your sub tick” as it were, and providing she is prepared to take the journey, achieving subspace is possible reasonably easily…however…a note of caution. In each journey into subspace every little nuance of the sub must be watched, and noted…as the unmanageable may always come to the fore…The application of stimuli is really twofold. There is of course the sexual one, achieved through stimulation in erogenous areas. Allied to this we then have the D/s stimuli; separate and distinct I feel, but equally as important. These D/s stimuli might be pain, bondage, removal of senses (such as blindfolding), along with the use of other sensory factors like ice, heat or similar, as well as equally important ones like use of voice, and sounds. The dilemma is to achieve a good balance between them all. It is important that the sexual stimulation is there, but the journey into subspace would probably not happen successfully without the D/s as well.”
My Asian virgin classmate used the word “simp” the other day…
I just gave him the most confused look that I could muster
I’ll be honest, I’m not well versed in pimp game or what exactly a simp is…
butt the fact that this dude thought he could explain to me what a simp was…when he had never fucked a girl (i’m in grad school)…
shit is getting mainstream
The video of pimps talking to hos on the street.
There’s a hypnotic quality to it, the sound of their voice, the rhythm of their speech, even the rhyming words that they employ.
there’s imagery there, promising the ho a better life…and yet objectifying and degrading her at the same time.
There’s a confidence behind the rap, knowing that they are inserting thoughts, beliefs into her mind.
“You really out here looking like you got nothing to loon forward to, nobody to look up to…but the Game really does get much greater though”
My question is, how does this differ from me painting a picture of a fun, debacherous lifestyle full of sex and partying?
I see a chick at a bar, open her, get past her initial defenses…tell her some stories about the lifestyle to get her curious, and then I lead her back to my place where I do some personality analysis to make her feel “oh he really gets me”
Taking the fundamentals of pimp game and going pimp lite on professional women with jobs. That’s the model I’m inquiring about.
@BasketBounce
“Taking the fundamentals of pimp game and going pimp lite on professional women with jobs. That’s the model I’m inquiring about.”
Unf. I don’t really know anything about pimping bc It’s never been “in your face” in England. I’d have to buy the right book to read up on it to understand how it REALLY worked. The ordinary white working class mans (me) understanding is that the pimp provides protection for a cut of the money, but that’s gotta be nowhere near the truth of the full deal bc most men in that situation would just turn into lame arses doing that for free for the woman for a sniff of the V. They’d turn into simps.
In response to your original question the only thing I’d say is that they’re all just women, don’t get misled or distracted by the idea that you’ve got a “professional woman with a job” on your hands, they’re all the same.
If you’re already approaching women and getting them back to your place anyway you’re getting most of what you want anyway. The thing is not allowing it to “slip” into a place you don’t want it to be after that…
What is it you’re trying to get that you’re not getting now?
>The ordinary white working class mans (me) understanding is that the pimp provides protection for a cut of the money, but that’s gotta be nowhere near the truth of the full deal bc most men in that situation would just turn into lame arses doing that for free for the woman for a sniff of the V.
His primary role is that of motivator. Street Walkers got molested, abused, raped, and killed all the time, because “her man” isn’t standing outside the door.
He gives her the motivation and structure to go out there to sell her body. If you read enough of this literature, or maybe you know strippers, what you’ll find that is many of these women don’t maximize their dollars. Aside from “wear and tear”, they don’t know how to work hard or work smart. Strip clubs tend to be packed with talent the week before rent is due.
All of this giving up independence and wealth to someone else sounds weird, but most men (in the west) could be entrepreneurs. They prefer the structure and motivation of working for someone else, rather than to capture and realize their own value.
@Archie
That’s interesting. It’s no different from most other legal men and women actually. If they thought through their business properly and what we call “screwed their nut” which means get stuck in then they’d do a lot better financially. In younger men it’s all to do with bad role models. Where I’ve employed men and women it’s about leadership, and with women especially it’s down to me to take the risks. Women don’t want risk.
I suppose in hookers and strippers it’s gonna be down to a similar problem, but worse because they’ve got to take a risk and the pimp has to either manage that risk and / or manage the girl – get her to quit bitchin about her shit and get out there and put in a full shift to make a proper days pay.
I don’t know any strippers bc I live in an English party town, and there is only one strip joint – so it’s not Vegas. But I did used to manage a lot of girls and you needed the right mindset for it. If you had that they’d follow wherever you went, if you didn’t they’d run you around, and they’d try to use the V for that. I never touched them in that way bc it would have given them power over me. Dunno if pimps bang their women? Or do they have separate women for sex?
I’ve never been to the local strip club and I’m not gonna go but quite by accident I cold approached the girl (her and her friend) who had owned it. I fucked up the escalation but that’s another story. She was about 33 and was talking about it and I couldn’t believe the math on the joint. She should have been killing it for cash but wasn’t. She ended up giving it away to her ex bf who also ran the door.
Back before 2008 I used to go a lot in the City of London, but that was only because my Bank Manager liked the place so I was forever buying him lap dances, I didn’t participate. I used to buy him lap dances and he’d sign off on the loans I wanted. Easy Peasey!
Isn’t that mad? The power of even rented 5 minutes of V.. If I was travelling with my bank manager I’d pay his hotel room bc he couldn’t put the porno room movies through on expenses. He’d discount the loan fees for that… and he was a tall good looking well paid guy.. but the shit most men go through bc they can’t get pussy on their own terms.. my secretary who handled all my bills (who was a HB9) was freaked out by it. I couldn’t deduct the taxes so she had to do the math on all the lap dancing bills etc… and convert it to a mileage claim..
Her.. “You fucking kidding? More lap dances – and you paid his hotel room and you paid for his porno? WTF? Is he that fuckin sad?”
Me.. “yeah.. he can have what he wants if he keeps signing off on what I want”
Apart from that I went to New York with a gf a few years back and we went to a strip club (Flashdancers?); bc she wanted to get off with a stripper.. we nearly walked out bc all the girls looked like they had no character.. just basically like they’d been ground down by it all. I mean we were a walking $200 bill.. bc we were staying until she was wringing wet .. my gf was hot and she wanted a girl in her face.. all the girls had to do was walk up and collect on that coin but most were bitchin amongst themselves.
So the pimp is in a hard ruthless game. I would think that the most difficult bit is getting started with your first girls, and then you need a stream of new ones ready to come online to replace any that are acting up. Others gotta see you’re running your business properly and the money is spinning off the back of that.
@PalmaSailor
Appreciate the response.
What I’m looking to get is more consistent pulls with women that I find physically ideal.
Your typical thick booty girl that you see in the gym…except you can’t approach in the gym too much, so that realistically leaves me with just night game and social circle game with athletic chicks. I’m not gonna join a co-ed kickball league for chicks…
But yeah, mainly just looking to pull thick booty athletic hos in the 7-8 range with higher frequency than I do now. Going from a numbers game to The Game.
I say professional women because that’s who I relate to easiest. I’m very middle class. I’d probably get hoodwinked if I tried to go after a stripper. And I don’t really run in the model/art/fashion scene. More like regular chicks with 9-5s that lift weights and go hiking on the weekends
Palma
*. Dunno if pimps bang their women*
They do.
My understanding of pimp game, at its core, is give the girl a taste of what she /needs, then keep her chasing after that.
Love other thoughts on it.
@BasketBounce
“What I’m looking to get is more consistent pulls with women that I find physically ideal.”
Well you’re already approaching and getting success. I wouldn’t write the gym off, I got several lays from there plus my second ex wife. 🙄
So you can’t go at it like a bull at a gate, and I know they say “we don’t want to be approached at the gym”, but you know that’s bullshit right? If Brad Pitt walked in you know damn well that shit would go out the window and she’d want to be approached. What they mean is “we don’t want to be hassled by fuckwits while we’re getting this fine booty in shape for @BasketBounce bc we wanna suck his cock”.
Buuut I do think you need to go indirect while you DHV. Probably not even with the target.
I’d approach it like how I do hen nights which is do the “oops” approach with the ugliest one. Bump into her and possibly even knock the drink clean out of her hand, then I gotta take her to the bar to buy a replacement (cos I won’t remember what she wants) and then I’m into it with her and she’ll laugh and joke all night. Once she’s in hysterics the others will start to dip in and out to see what’s up… aaand then you can jump horse… bc the ugly one is pre selecting you into the group.
I’d do something like that. Perhaps fumble with the lid on your water bottle and throw your water over them by accident or something… some derivative of that.
@Sentient
“My understanding of pimp game, at its core, is give the girl a taste of what she /needs, then keep her chasing after that.”
So that’s what always happens to me. They look at how I live and they want a bit of that. Not necessarily affluence, just lack of shit in my world, and me doing what I want.
Currently I’m banging nurse. She broke lockdown for the meet, and has broken the rules ever since. She turns up a couple of times a week, for a few hours of “escaping” in my flat and wants to “shut the door on the world outside”. There is the occasional bit of “Boyfriend type activity” like a beer on the beach after sex or food after sex but that’s it.
She’s seduced by the cock to the point she’s a bit embarrassed. Yesterday she was trying to reconcile in bed asking “how I knew?”. I said I didn’t know, but women don’t know either. I said a woman is never gonna say “I want you to push a dildo up by arse while I’m sitting on your cock and you choke me with your spare hand and then I’ll come like a steam train”. They don’t even know that. And if they did know that then they couldn’t say it or trust that the man they’re saying it to could deliver it in a manner that wouldn’t hurt them. It’s the mans role to push the boundaries gently feeling her response as he goes and escalating that without overdoing it.
Just to prove she’s a cat she says she doesn’t do online dating bc “all men want is sex”, but she shows up here multiple times a week and all we do is sex. In dog language she’s saying she doesn’t do online dating bc the shit sex she gets isn’t worth the effort.
Now she’s paying me to do a load of work on her house. I’ve got my fuck you income which is quite a lot, but apart from that I’ve no work to do, and I’d quite like to ride out this shit storm doing building work for nurses bc they keep getting paid by the state and are more or less oblivious to the financial disaster that’s going down.
Plus she’s recommending me to all the nurses and friends and she’s coming back and telling me what budgets and other quotes they’ve got for the work they want doing.
Plus the physical work has my stomach flattened Etc..
Anyway she’s discussed all this with her younger (35) nurse friend at work. Nurse friend has “daddy issues” and has a “bf” of about my age. BF is a “lovely guy” but keeps going off on 3 day benders. Gets himself lost and vomiting in a ditch somewhere and she goes, mops him up, gives him a saline IV and straitens him out. That rinses and repeats.
So nurse is repeating the suggestion that we go hang out with nurse friend and her bf (vomit man) and I’ve kept kicking it out. I’d like to bang nurse friend and I’m certain that this “meet” is about her scoping me out. Buuuuut… I just don’t let gobshiites (vomit men) get any proximity to me bc they’re in the same category as pickpockets.
They’re parasites that want proximity to you so they can leverage your value for their own ends and when this doesn’t work they try to vandalise you and bring you down. (Just look at what’s happening in the other place – and who predicted that).
So anyway, what to do about the meet with nurse friend and vomit man. Problem is that I have an autopilot now, even the street bums take one look into my eyes and don’t even ask for money anymore. So is that nurse friends game? let’s you and him fight and branch swing? when what I want is secret society sex god while vomit man is BB or AWOL in a ditch.
All this whilst not fucking up the work flow from nurse.
How to play this?
Palma
How to play…
Start by seeding the idea with nurse that it would be hot to see her with another girl.
Then drop it. Go about your sex trance with her as normal.
Next time friend comes up just say you aren’t interested in hanging with guys like that but sure have your friend over.
And then take things from there when they show up…
This is the “red dress” dynamic from Rollo’s Jobs post btw.
@ Sentient
“Start by seeding the idea with nurse that it would be hot to see her with another girl.”
That’s done. And if i say it at the right moment it tips her over the edge, so it’s live.
From previous experience The thing about girls and threesomes with other girls is they’ll bang their best friends or total strangers, nothing in between. As soon as lockdown eases we’re going to a club and I’m gonna bang her out in a cage with onlookers and women getting off with her.
“This is the “red dress” dynamic from Rollo’s Jobs post btw.”
Ok, I thought that was a non post. I didn’t get the point of that at all. So he wasn’t gonna get suckered into buying a dress, she had to buy it if she wanted him, who cares, and how does it relate?
The red dress was a test. She was to get it for him, because he liked it. “This would look good on you”.
Same here. The extra girl is a test.
It’s another level of submission.
She’s doing it for you not her. “Yes Master”
Pimpin ain’t easy they say.
Degrees
Suck cock < Swallow < Anal < BDSM < recruiting girls < being pimped for money < Nexium tattoo < strapping on a bomb…