Technical Game Bible Review Pt 2 of 3

First day off in ~2 months.  I need to figure out this 4 hour work week thing.

There’s a Ghostface Killa reference here for my Hip Hop Heads

The Tail End of The Emotional Arousal Section

So we left off on Prizing Frames.

A ‘Prizing Frame’ is simply an expression which allows you to very directly and straightforwardly communicate that you are the ‘prize’ and flip the script. Broadly speaking, the idea is to  re-frame something she says to imply that she is trying to pick you up and sleep with you. Think of it as putting your own dick on a pedestal. The polar opposite of what every guy does by putting the girl on a pedestal.

Saul really knows his old school game.

This sort of “micro” game, where you look at the interaction from word to word, from glance to glance, from social scenario to the next… you’ll start to see how a lot of the game is really in what is NOT SAID.

The communication of the Prizing Frame is more than just about flipping the interaction – it’s about looking at a simple conversation between you and a girl, and not thinking that all you can do is say stuff to impress her, to make her like you.

It opens up the idea that every word, every look, every part of the interaction has MEANING.  And if you start to think more about the interaction at a higher level, you have more possibilities.

Saul doesn’t go this far, given that it’s a book for beginners. But if you’re reading my blog, you’re far from a beginner.

What’s really good about this book, is that Saul lays out some examples of how to use this in conversation.  He not only gives the words themselves, but a lot of the non-verbal aspects to the framing and delivery.

From this point in the book, he really gets more into the technical things we did in the old school to get the girl going emotionally.

    • Takeaways
    • Challenges
    • Expression of Boundaries
    • Self Amusement
    • Role-Plays
    • Sexual Misinterpretations
    • Games and Gimmicks
    • Cold Reads
    • Deep Personality Compliments
    • Demonstration of Intellectual Value

All have clear explanations and examples.

I can’t contain my excitement and admiration for compiling technical ideas that anyone can just pick up, understand, and use.

Emotional Leading

The next Big Section of the Book is Emotional Leading.  It’s the last 3rd of the book, but probably the most important.

Most Red Pill guys talking about pick up operate on this basic model.

  1. Show enough sexual market value
  2. She hooks up with you

Yeah brah, just up your reps, maybe do a cycle or two, and just show up. The girls do all the work

If you come from an old school Pick Up, you realize that being a good looking guy, muscles, and some money in the bank is NEVER enough. Girls rarely move first. The ones that do are often the ones that don’t have anything to lose if they see you reject them.  You think rejection is painful for a guy, it’s devastating for a girl.

The girl might be attracted, she might even be aroused, but she’s not going to grab you by the collar and toss you on the bed at Ikea and have her way with you.

Most vanilla porn is about the girl either being the aggressor, or making it real easy for the guy to make a move.  The other side is that the guy engages in some sort of power scenario.

In both cases, it’s fantasy. Hooking up with the girl for the first time is an exercise in pursuit.  We don’t get to change the rules of the animal kingdom.

So it’s obvious that you need to lead her, like a Cowboy.

https://youtu.be/z__AMV80IHo?t=60

But you’re not pulling on reins, (unless you’re into that.  Pony Play is all the rage these days).

You want her to go somewhere, but you don’t want to pull her/push her.  You want her to chase you there.

How? Elicit Investment.

His understanding of the game and how most guys think when they read those words is impeccable. Cause guys see one thing, and then do what’s natural to them based on a natural understanding of language.  Pick Up has a lot of everyday words with nuanced and technical meanings.

In the literature, eliciting investment is hand in hand with “hoop theory”.  Make the girl jump through hoops, and she’ll jump into bed with you.

Guys just take the bare idea and run with it.  Saul makes a crucial distinction between a Social Value Hoop and an Emotional Investment Hoop.   What the guy wants is emotional investment, not for her to gain/lose social value.  It’s a subtle point, but what it does for the reader is makes him reevaluate what he’s trying to get girls to do.  Morever, Saul connects the girl’s actions to end goal.

From there, he breaks down the 3 levels of investment hoops.  Explicitly breaking it down to different levels is new territory in pickup.  We’ve always known, he’s just specified it.

From there, he goes into using sexual arousal to get more investment.  It’s an interesting discussion, almost academic. In isolation, it’s offputting.  But if you’ve gotten this far in the book, it’s riveting.

There’s a discussion of positive and negative rewards in this context.  And then he gives examples of the whole thing.

He mentions something I tend to harp on, the tendency for women to offer up significant life details in the most nonchalant way.  Most guys react to stuff like a pet dying, but Saul says that context really rules the meaning of the words, not the words themselves.  That’s a key insight.

On 9’s and 10’s

A legitimate stunner is NOT the same as a normal girl.

I don’t disagree on the merits, but I have different view of the 9/10 problem.

Starting with what I would call an objective 10 – any chick that’s become a super model.

Martha Hunt, Karen Elson, Alek Wek (examples)- to me, these women have their moments, but they aren’t my personal 10’s.

My 10s look more like this

The Models are still objective 10’s.

Supermodels are still treated like God’s Gift to Mankind by the public in general.  The really good ones have the social savvy to leverage that into wealth, fame, and power.   They become physically sheltered.  The average random guy does not just bump into Candice Swanepoel.

These girls are physically and socially isolated.  The only kind of guys they mess with – guys before the fame, and guys of the same status and in the same social class.

So the objective 10 is one that “everyone” has decided is attractive, they treat her accordingly, she acknowledges her status, and uses it.

What guys run into on a regular basis

  • Girls with Beautiful faces that aren’t difficult. They’re not approachable by newbs, because the newb writes a story in his mind about who she is.  He “sikes” himself out. (psychs looks weird)
  • Girls with great bodies, decent faces, but tend to deal with a lot of thirsty “alpha” dudes. (Video Vixens)
  • Girls with Beautiful faces that are not society’s preferred brand. For the most part, the super model is Nordic/Slavic, melanated version of such, or she’s exotic/visually striking.

Models that are striking but not conventionally pretty 

 

  • Girls that have neither body nor face, but have the expectations of queens.

So to me, this particular section is a little weak, because Saul isn’t really breaking down the her mentality, the social aspects, and the guy’s mentality about so-called 10’s.

If you’re on the East Coast, black dudes love Latinas.  Dominicans, Cubans, Brazilians, Colombians.  The Latinas that migrate to the states go from 6’s at home to 9’s based on THIRST.  So they develop INTO girls with the expectations of these savvy super model.  Lame dudes gas these girls up so much that a real player has to figure out a way to get at these girls.

But as we have discovered, rather than pay an exorbitant price here, just fly to “the factory” and get them for rock bottom prices.  Colombians in Miami are at a social premium, but in Medellin it’s just Tuesday.

What I mean to say that a girl’s objective looks don’t ever determine her outlook, her personality, her behavior, how she treats others, how society treats her, and what you need to do to make the connection.

Most PUA’s don’t think that. They do think that a girl with an Angel Face is automatically one way or another.

You can’t look at a girl’s face and know that she’s socially savvy and has good girl game.  That’s only uncovered via interaction.

To his credit, he does get into how much a guy has to push the girl that thinks of herself as a supermodel and expects to be treated like Kim/Nicki.

In my experience, you don’t come in heavy like this until it’s warranted.  I’m pretty sure that’s how Mystery deploys negs.  If she’s a bitchy LA Club princess – adjust game accordingly.

And it’s helpful to think that it’s not really a battle, it’s the girl saying that she wants to play.  She just plays rough.

What should have been the best chapter imo, is marred by this oversight.

Physical Expressions

This is a useful chapter.  He distinguishes between physicality and escalation.

Escalation is going from very neutral physical touches to ones that are more familiar, more romantic, and more sexual.

What if you touched a girl with a different intent?

Let’s say you and your girl are out at a restaurant. She goes to the lady’s room. When she comes back, she traces her hand along your back to let you know she’s returned.

It’s not a sexual touch, and it’s not level 10 in terms of pleasurable.  But it is calming and soothing.

So Saul goes into how to use touch in the context of the initial pick up.  Some touches are soothing and provide comfort. Some provide tension.  Some are about positive reinforcement.  It’s very useful stuff.  A perfect version of this book would have candid photos of people doing said moves.

There’s a mini-section on whether you should go for a makeout on the road to pulling her home.  I’m pretty much against releasing sexual tension when i can’t close.  I prefer my game to be really tight.  That said, I’ve done it in the past, as many others have, and still gotten to end.

Leading Her Around the Venue is touched on.  He distinguishes from the old school bouncing and the new RSD babystepping idea of getting her out of the club.  He does go into the old school philosophy of why bouncing helps with the interaction.

Sexual Expressions and the end game

Not gonna get too deep into this one.  It’s a family blog!

He does go into how to avoid the friendzone here.  I’d put something like this in the first chapter.

Calibration is discussed.  Again, something i’d mention earlier.

From there, he gets into the light sexual/romantic verbals to heavier ones.

The actual process of leaving the venue is explained, and he goes into pitfalls.

He talks about screening for logistics here, and this is where we diverge.  Always establish logistics way before you get to the heavy attraction stuff.  Though it is possible to get a girl to move heaven and earth once she’s sufficiently in to you – MOST OF THE TIME, she’s not going to do any of the work.

“Seeding the Pull” and “Pulling the Trigger Follow”.

Handling objections is barely discussed, and this section should be much beefier.  I don’t run into objections as much any more, because i’m screening out bad logistics, handling her friends, and trying to pull the girl deeper into – “I really like this guy” versus “I really want to hook up, and this guy will do”.

Cialdini’s principles are adapted to pulling as well as common sales tactics are fleshed out a bit for the pick up context.  Not really my taste, but it’s traditional to use this sort of stuff in PUA lit.

He also hides how to deal with AMOG Competition here.

The plan is to spike the girl’s emotions, get her reactive to me, and then get the guy jumping through a couple of my hoops.

I won’t go into the rest of the story, but it’s pretty epic along with some commentary on what most guys would try, and what you should do instead.

I’m gonna end it here.  Not working tomorrow, so I should be able to rock out Part 3 – How to put his stuff into action and my overall impressions. of the book.

-Archie

5 thoughts on “Technical Game Bible Review Pt 2 of 3”

  1. Do any game teachers have vast experience bedding runway models. Saul’s book sounds good but dude is an anon not showing any proof. I could see it going down for CMQ due to his Manhattan location but the man retired from teaching game.

    Respect to all the coaches coming from a genuine place to help men. But game teachers exaggerate about 9s & 10s because it’s effective marketing.

    Greatest results I seen from “game guys” are women with the look of a beauty queen, playboy model, professional cheerleader, etc. The glamour model appearance.

    Men react harder to a set of big breasts on an hourglass body than a rail thin hipster silhouette. Our president married a tall slim woman with a strikingly beautiful face for appearances sake but fucked a voluptuous porn star on the side. A man who can bed 99% of women.

    1. 1) Lots of Runway models – Not that can be proven. But as I’ve said before, you need to be in NYC (or some fashion hub – Paris/Milan) and work the the fashion industry scene. FIT/Parsons etc is over on the West Side, and a guy could post up at the starbucks and local spots, and try to do street game. And if Slavic is what you want, I’d fuck with Cafe Volna in Coney Island. My Slav in America days are DONE. I want nothing to do with Olga and her crowd.

      You got remember, the super models get paid in money, but most of the models doing runway shit are getting paid in clothes, or bullshit money. They live 4 to a place in the West Village, if possible. When they do open calls, it’s basically a bunch of cattle in the room. They’re all “that pretty”.

      2) Your president, lol. Don’t ever forget where you’re at. This ain’t the forum. Most of the guys doing international game can grab a Svetlana on her home turf. She’s a model in the states, but just a girl in Ukraine.

      1. 2) My bad muscle memory. We used to be on the same boards where lotta posters backed the President. Lol

        Good to see you’re still helping guys by analyzing the game out there.

        Any upcoming posts about Mode 1 in your blog’s pipeline? I searched the blog and only saw some brief mentions of Mode 1.

        Mode 1 is very effective in my experience but overlooked. Would love to hear a scholarly player’s thoughts on Mode 1

        1. I was thinking of doing a series of book/program reviews. It ends up helping me write mine.
          1) Manson’s Models – worst popular book imo
          2) Mode 1 – cause you asked for it
          3) Surgical Method – I forget the guy’s name, but it’s top notch old school game from a new kid
          4) Mystery Method – a look back. Aside from the Evo Psych stuff and his so-called attraction triggers – I think it stands up. I’d have to talk about Magic Bullet after that though.

          We’ll see. Since 45 came into power, I have a lot more of my day job to do.

          1. Always a pleasure to hear your thoughts. Really looking forward to your contrasting of Mode 1 and Mystery Method. Opposite ends of the indirect-direct spectrum. A handful of guys can do both methods.

            What I vaguely remember from Manson’s book. Be real by showing vulnerability.

            But why does Models rank low for you?

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