The original video – https://www.instagram.com/tv/CPE97xDlZgc/
The fall out of the original video – https://www.instagram.com/p/CSaWO_JHttv/
So much quality game in this, lol. Especially in the self delusion
[Cheating] …I’m doing it for her. Cheating saved my relationship for years. I would have left that bitch after a month if it had not been for cheating.
Real? Fake? If you’re questioning yourself? – it’s great game.
-Archie
The Players
Fresh and Fit
Aba and Preach
The Time line
The Good Old Days
The Spark
I’ll have to do a point by point breakdown
The Reaction to the Reaction
The Escalation
The Fake Apology and Apology
And the coda
There are somethings happening here in terms of content.
Aba and Preach don’t know the red pill, and kinda don’t like it. But Aba has some shades of RP in their content. I’ve personally noticed a shift into “these crazy females” type stuff over the past 2 years. I think I mentioned it on Reddit, cause I like them, but they’re built like that.
F&F are very red pill, just not really great on the debate and how to play these situations.
Rollo does a once over on A&Ps argument. He kills it, even getting fed up with the BS.
Lemme put my cards on the table. As Youtubers, I prefer A&P. Fresh and Fit, I can’t watch for the same reason I don’t really watch Kevin Samuels PAST HIS MONOLOGUE.
I don’t like to hear women argue. I know a lot of guys like to see F&F put thots in their place, and watch Kevin Samuels dismantle these delusional chicks, but the second I hear the words
“I feel like…..”
I’m gone.
So what we have with A&P and F/F looks like
I think Rollo is right, this is an ideological difference.
But it looks like this to me.
I’m gonna talk about 4 essential man skills that are part of the foundation of your overall game skills
OpSec – Bad Boys move in silence. Everybody that’s moved up to notoriety in this area has been doxxed. And the fallout affects their careers and their families.
F&F are “living out loud”, and as a result of the attention, they’re getting a lot of haters. This is especially an issue when they both have some flaws in their game.
Threat Recognition – As a man, you have to be able to recognize threats. This is Manhood 101 – protect your physical safety, safety of your loved ones, money, reputation, etc.
F&F didn’t really recognize the threat of A&P, and certainly did not think about what it would mean if they escalated it in the immature fashion that they did.
Never bring the wife and the kids into it.
Emotional Control/Anger Management – As a young bol or rookie in pick up, but in life – learning to keep your anger under wraps is crucial. 18 year old Archie would have gotten real reckless at some of the bs jobs I’ve worked and fake friends and ditzy chicks. But I had that level of control built into me.
Part of the attack on masculinity, not just toxic masculinity, is getting little boys to open up about their feelings.
The feelings they want are ones of vulnerability, things that will be used against him.
Little boys have to be TAUGHT to not reveal those things BECAUSE the world is not a safe place. There are predators out there that will prey on a boy’s, teen’s, man’s feelings. Otherwise little boys are open books.
Valuable survival lessons…
There is a time to show anger, to show sadness – and that’s when showing these emotions (real or faked) will get you what you want.
Sometimes you gotta do something that puts people on NOTICE.
With your boss, homies, female you yapping to, it can be as simple as a shift in tone, eye contact, and NO. Letting them realize that they’re crossing a line.
To me the the A&P video was a sneak diss, a straight up character assassination.
But both Fresh and Fit LOST all composure.
De-escalation and Conflict Resolution.
The first thing a man should learn is how to fight.
But when things get real, the first thing a man should do is avoid conflict, kowtow if needed, and learn how to de-escalate a situation.
Plenty of dudes in the penitentiary and cemetery because they would not back down, cause of their egos.
I personally think that A&P should have reached out to F&F before putting out this video.
They didn’t.
Shots fired.
But then F&F should have then reached out behind the scenes to discuss it.
That’s not how they handled it.
And now…we gotta deal with this..
-Archie
Yes, I must.
So Fresh, of the Fresh and Fit, has his own separate channel where he “lifestyle vlogs”
If you’ve ever seen Fresh and Fit, they’re like a Rollo Tomassi/Kevin Samuels for the Instagram generation.
For the most part, I think I’ve said this before – I generally don’t agree with Fresh, but I respect him. But we old heads over here, so whenever these young guns start rapping, we should remember..
So the F&F game is tied to the new reality of instagram, lifestyle design, and basically the new reality. It’s a bitter pill to swallow for guys like us who like to talk to chicks in person.
Fresh’s personal blog is the personification of their style.
He has the cars.
He wears the watches.
And his lifestyle speaks for him.
Is it all smoke and mirrors? I dunno.
They (the haters in our camp, not just mainstreamers who don’t care or feminists looking to derail us) said the same thing about Mystery, Style, RSD, and pretty much everyone in this space.
Which bring us to this video.
Let’s start at the ground level.
The average millionaire is a 50 year old white guy, happily married – probably to a woman that he met in high school, church, or college, and owns a small business. Might be a pool chemicals supply guy, a plumber, a dentist, occasionally a lawyer, banker, or STEM guy that’s good at saving and investing.
On the F&F Podcast, they ask some random chick that wants to date a multi-millionaire what she brings to the table.
So Fresh has this young lady respond to what the girl in the video said.
You don’t really need to listen to all of it, but she basically dismantles all of the girls points. Basically Fresh’s mouthpiece in Asian form.
Asian shorty says
These are both Miami chicks
Let’s contrast these two young ladies with this MARRIED couple from California.
They met in college. Got good jobs. His dream was retire before 40, and she was the planner and executer.
Together, they made it happen.
Now they’re taking family surf lessons with their daughters in Portugal and living off of investment income before 40.
Now, I wouldn’t call this couple anything close to Hollywood Royalty, but they made a beautiful life together, with their family.
This what a lady should be bringing to the table, not something as silly as her earnings or a willingness to “dine at the Y”
-Archie
Having a tough time of it. And when that happens, I lean back into music.
Some of y’all young dudes might not even know who these cats are. They were before my time, but Steely Dan has been sampled a lot in hip hop. (and honestly that hip hop is probably before your time, lol)
This is a classic.
The Story behind it?
I haven’t been able to find a book club that doesn’t degrade into girl’s night out wine time.
I can already hear the defenses, but when given opportunity to do their own thing – what happens?
Speaking of, a satirical take on the premise.
Aide – Madam President, The power stations are going to shut down.
President – Which city?
Aide – All of Them
But this little nugget
-Archie
The TL:DR –
Crowded bar.
Women’s bathroom was long (because it’s always long)
Chick tries to go into the men’s room.
Dude, moves in front of her to go the men’s room.
Security, pulls the guy away, and let’s the girls use the Men’s Room.
Scrote pulled out of mens bathroom so me and my friend could pee at the bar
byu/missgelassenheit inFemaleDatingStrategy
These same set of women have a hissy fit if a transwoman uses the bathroom, because the women’s bathroom is sacred.
This is the world we live in.
I’m not mad about it.
What is interesting to me, and useful to you – is her desire to gloat to the sisterhood on how some stranger guy was “put in his place”.
TRIGGER WARNING – First few minutes of this video is an actual murder. It took me by surprise, so I’m telling you guys. Literally trigger warning.
The woman rolls up, shoots another woman in the head, and walks back to her double parked white subcompact.
What’s not interesting is the murder. Women murder or incite men to murder other men all the time.
What’s interesting is the cops talking about the murder, in a way to take away accountability, responsibility, and agency from the woman.
All I see is a murder.
A chick using the men’s bathroom vs cops subtracting culpability – it’s the same kid gloves treatment, just differences of degree.
-Archie
So the TL DR – Woman has car issues and rather than fix them, she goes on a date.(Attractive is implied) Dude asks, plans, and then takes the chick to DINNER. Has a good conversation about something she likes. He asks consent for a kiss. She says no, on the reason that she’s not vaccinated.
Wait, hold on. So she went to a dinner, and then ice cream, and she has to take her mask off for that.
And she’s mad that he rolled out? She expected him to wait around?
Now, I’m not saying bro’s should verbalize “what do you bring to the table?” but in this case
But when it comes time for a kiss…
I don’t blame the dude.
The proper player move was to
If she wants closure, you go back through your list, and tell the chick she’s a bird.
That out of the way, this is one of the conspiratorial comments.
There have been comments suggesting we have a massive book/online resource to record all these scrotes.
Imagine if all the guys in your city had a database recording all of your dealings with Tinder chicks.
FDS, the gift that keeps on giving
-Archie
One of my favorite subs on Reddit – it shows female nature (and hypergamy) in all of its unedited glory.
So let’s break this down
First – It’s important for women to define their ex-lovers as abusive.
my former relationship was, in fact, abusive due to the following reasons:
This is a key part of the strategy for them to cope with the guys they pick, and the man not being a woman.
It’s okay to be a man. And part of being masculine is stoicism. A man needed to be heartless to kill a nursing water buffalo. He needs to NOT identify with his dinner, with his enemy, in order to survive.
• My ex kept his “thoughts, feelings, hopes, and dreams to [himself] only.”
According to her, this is a bad thing.
This is what science says.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/why-you-shouldnt-tell-people-about-your-dreams/
https://blog.trello.com/science-backed-reasons-you-shouldnt-share-your-goals
Revealing Little as Possible
• My ex remained “silent and aloof toward [me], revealing as little as possible.”
This is a problem for chicks, but we all know that when you let a chick see the wizard behind the curtain – it hurts the relationship long term.
FD on the topic
FD ain’t no Red Piller, playa mack, by any stretch of the imagination – but they really do not want to know, do not know how to handle it, and will punish guys for doing so.
• My ex repeatedly stonewalled me after I voiced my concerns. He would disappear for days under the guise of “needing space”. Upon coming back, my concerns were never discussed or resolved.
My man! Sometimes you gotta walk away before the chick pushes you, or the relationship to the point of no return.
All of this is gold. (and keep in mind, we don’t now why they broke up, but this relationship maintenance behavior cuts both ways.)
My ex knew how to create an illusion of intimacy, sharing things that held little to no emotional importance to him. Withholding information was his way of:
• Maintaining the upper hand (control) in our relationship.
• Ensuring he stayed unattached, potentially a defense mechanism against real or perceived separation/rejection.
• Ensuring little to no emotional turmoil (shame, guilt) for abandoning me during, before, and after conflict.
• Avoiding accountability for his mistreatment.
If that’s how she sees it.
But analyzing these things makes the young player realize what she wants.
I’m not even sure what “upper hand” in the relationship means. It’s not like these chicks don’t have their own lives, their own jobs, their own money.
And what does attachment mean? I’m here ain’t I.
But this key line here – she wants you to feel bad for abandoning her in times of conflict.
Ensuring little to no emotional turmoil (shame, guilt) for abandoning me during, before, and after conflict.
99 times out of 100, she has some issue with what he’s doing. Whereas the 100 things that she does, he never says a word.
And if he does? He’s controlling and abusive.
-Archie
Recently, Fresh of Fit and Fresh copped a McLaren.
This obviously caused a ruckus with the boys, especially the fact that he’s mentioning a random chick.
And then this popped up (this is looking obviously fake, but there are plenty of these vids online – guy talks to girl, she isn’t interested, and then he gets into a super car/hyper car and she gets interested, and then he rejects her for being a gold digger)
The story about both is that men can trigger hypergamy by showing their status/material wealth.
If you go by the Rollo’s idea of game “Whatever your strategy is to meet the opposite sex” – then this is clearly game.
And of course, that’s not MY definition.
The thing is that if we’re building the twin pillars of manhood
To a kid looking up to me, Life ain’t nothing but bitches and money (c) Ice Cube
So at some point, many of us, hopefully all of us are going to have these trappings of our status.
Maybe it’s not just a suit, but a nice suit.
Maybe it’s not just dress shoes, but something with museum calf.
It’s not just a dive watch, it’s a Submariner
It’s an S-Class/G-Wagen
Whatever it is, whatever thing that you’re doing for yourself, will eventually get noticed by the opposite sex.
Are we to hide what we have? (which makes sense to me, but that means a life with very little in way of ostentation – stay in the suburban home in midling neighborhood, drive the same Toyota Camry, wear the same mall clothes as everyone else – only you, your accountant, and your personal banker”
-Archie
Seduction, Pick Up, The Game, etc – all have had very tortured relationships with pornography.
Back in the day, there was quite a debate about whether to “take care” of yourself before going out to sarge.
In the late 90’s/early 00’s – Dudes that were young, dumb, and full of potential – the testosterone surging through their very beings meant that a quick session would take the edge off and make “sarging” more effective because the edge was taken off. Dudes were not so thirsty.
The other side argued that by focusing one’s sexual energy into the entirety of the pick up, but keeping it under control – that energy could be harnessed for more effective pickups.
There was no easy answer to this question, and it ended up being up to the individual, and that ended up to be case by case, day by day.
Keep in mind, this debate was at the start of internet porn being freely available. Most Gen X guys and older did not grow up with a virtual harem in their pockets. Moreover, the female “arms” race to modify her visage and attract more attention did not go into hyperspace like it has now.
20 years later, things have changed.
Not only has internet pornography damaged a new generation of guys, it’s also enticed a lot of women into easy money. She just needs a webcam and an OnlyFans account to make “thousands” – (In reality, that’s just not the case. She’s putting her pics and videos out there for pennies, only to have those things resurface later in life. But we wont judge)
So a tale of regret as commented on by Mediocre Tutorials and Review
The “star” in question is Kinsley Karter. I am familiar with her work, though not a fan. She confesses to being a pornstar as well as a sugar baby.
But what happens when these chicks decide to truly cash in on their looks and be trophy wives.
Well there’s this
Aba (the Ethiopian dude) and Preach (The Haitian Dude) weigh on her advice.
But what happens when these pornstars try to actually get married?
Oshay Duke Jackson breaks down this situation.
What are we to take away from this?
I think the Red Pill answer is obvious.
But what about players?
The veteran player has absorbed the red pill, and is well past the anger and finger pointing stage.
There are no unicorns, and plenty of women are out there doing their thing but not broadcasting it.
Unlike today
And just to throw another one in there – infamous, now on Spotify – “respectable young ladies’ – who’ve gotten fame and money via their exploits…
It would be funny if it weren’t so tragic.
The RP/Trad Con is clutching his pearls.
The young player is sowing his oats.
But as a veteran, all I can do is shake my head.
– Archie