We had this discussion earlier this year.
I posed the question, what is advanced game?
For whatever reason, the forum thinks that I have a lot of the stuff. No my friend, I have a fair amount of experience of trying shit and it blowing up in my face.
It is what it is. I write things down. I remember as much as possible. I ask myself, “Self, how could this have played out differently?”
I read. I get counsel and inspiration from others. That’s the way it’s supposed to work.
After a certain point though, after you get over the initial hurdles of going from Square to Mack, from Peon to Pimp, from Chump to Champ…you start to wonder where you can take game.
Now, let’s give today’s definition of game.
You know that a woman (human) primarily operates on emotions and feelings. A woman (human) will make life altering decisions because something feels good or something feels bad. She’s not deliberating nuffin’.
So this applies to romance as well. So if she feels sexy, she feels ready for some loving, and she feels like there’s not gonna be any downside, well why not get cozy with a gentleman? Where’s the harm?
Conventionally, society teaches us that women only feel that way if a whole bunch of criteria are met
- You’re tall
- You’re handsome
- You have a good body
- You have lots of friends, popular and well liked
- You have power
- You have money
And the way this plays out in real life, girls who don’t have two tits to rub together feel ENTITLED to these Denzel Mandingo’s.
“How dare you even talk to me? Even look at me. Be gone peasant.” – meanwhile the princess looks more like a gremlin.
However, that’s what society teaches.
What game teaches us is that if you can make her feel like she feels when she’s with a guy that’s tall, built, rich, et cetera – that’s good enough. She exists on feels. And your job as a player is to supply those feels.
And when she stops feeling those things, she moves on. When Chris Rock stopped being funny to his wife, they got a divorce.
So that’s game…. Giving her the feels, and doing it consistently.
We’ll talk about that in some detail…
So what exactly is advanced game?
It’s giving her the “feelz” PLUS!
Something like that. When you interact with a young lady you’re using the 3 main tools, but leaning on one
- What You Say
- Touch
- Where you move her to
Most game is about the talking part. Through words, you touch on her emotions.
But what if you could cut out the talking?
That’s where I’m thinking advanced game is.
A player that can get a chick’s primal brain in a primal way.
We’ll discuss further.
WIA, do you think that mystery plays any factor in the advanced levels of game? I think a lot of the allure behind getting a lizard attached has to do with not saying too much and just letting her brain spin. Part of the excitement she has for a man is as much as the imagery that he paints or enacts for her as much as the one she creates for herself.
I’ve definitely used intrigue before. A chick wanted to know where I got a particular scar from. It looks like a defensive wound.
Well, I basically said, “we need to be a little bit closer to discuss that”. Her interested piqued!
“Conventionally, society teaches us that women only feel that way if a whole bunch of criteria are met
You’re tall
You’re handsome
You have a good body
You have lots of friends, popular and well liked
You have power
You have money
And the way this plays out in real life, girls who don’t have two tits to rub together feel ENTITLED to these Denzel Mandingo’s.
“How dare you even talk to me? Even look at me. Be gone peasant.” – meanwhile the princess looks more like a gremlin.””
Yeah it’s crazy that there are guys walking around with mad degrees and cash and cars and looks and all kinds of other stuff, but still can’t pull girls because the cat is still thinking he needs to be impressing her.
Meanwhile she is sucking dick for free on the weekends and living with 5 other girls trying to make it in the city. Those are the fine ones too.
So then Game is about flipping it back the other way and making her work for you.
That’s table stakes.
Once you’ve got a girl chasing then you can bag her if you play the rest of your cards right.
That’s why green dudes coming in to the Game for the first time (at 30 or 13) learn a few routines go out and try it and are amazed because shit like asking girls whether men or women cheat more works out in field and can take a guy who has never had a positive social interaction to the center of a bunch of chicks in about 5 minutes.
So then pandora’s box is open and these dudes hit Google looking for the next magic pill. They end up in all of the usual places.
The problem is that like you said somewhere else, a lot of these cats never progress any more than those early routines.
Thinking about why they work, debriefing a night with your boys then going back out the next night and then trying again is the hard part once the beginners luck stops.
For me the advanced stuff comes once you’re taking shortcuts and compressing the timeframes a lot compared to what dudes conventionally would think.
That’s where a guy like Julien was making moves cause he’s just skipping whole steps and trying new shit and seeing what works. I think that’s Maddison now out of the RSD group if you’re looking for new material.
After a while with Game you start to get in to other questions too. Then you’re talking calculus and quantum physics instead of algebra and basic addition.
That’s when you get in to questions like what to do once you get chicks and they want to stick around no matter what, or what kinds of girls you actually like and how to get those and have them stick around no matter what.
It was really early in the Game that I had chicks doing mad dirt to jump on the D, but it took a while before that was conscious or repeatable or even with girls that I really wanted on it like that.
Also I’ve been getting in to other questions and the overlap between stuff like business where Game is just as handy even though the steps and “routines” are a bit different so you’ve got to tailor the words and actions even though all the underlying stuff is the same cause it’s basically persuasion and applied psychology and triggering the response process that you want.
There is material about all of this stuff in unlikely places, but it hasn’t really been brought back to discussions of Game in the pickup sense.