I’ve Always Hated Models by Manson

This ugly post brought back the hatred once again.

There have been plenty of PUA naysayers and Player Haters throughout the years.  Females obviously.  Then guys like Aaron Sleazy.  And even more guys saying this Guru is bad, but MY STUFF IS THE TRUTH…

How could I hate such in inoffensive book from Entropy aka Manson?

First, Vulnerability

“So the catch is that everything you say must be as authentic as possible. There’s no shortcut. There are no tricks. You say it because you mean it and mean it because you say it. The more nervous it makes you, the better, because it means you’re being authentic and making yourself vulnerable. How attractive you are is based on your confident behavior. Your confident behavior is based on how vulnerable you’re able to make yourself. And how vulnerable you’re able to make yourself is based on how honest you are to yourself and others.”

He doesn’t actually mean “vulnerability” in the common sense, but that’s how it’s taken.

Second, Show genuine interest

Don’t try to “be cool” and “act like you’re not interested,” by honestly expressing your interest in dating someone, you shortcut the “invsetment paradox” and demonstrate both interest and confidence at the same time. If a guy weren’t fearless about being rejected, he wouldn’t have the confidence to honestly express his attraction to a woman. This is “True Honesty”.

What kind of fantasy world does this guy live in?

Third, Using the Traffic Light Paradigm.

Think of splitting women you’re interested in into three categories: Receptive, Neutral, and Unreceptive:

Pick Up especially, and Game in general, is not for RECEPTIVE GIRLS.

I remember rapping with RSD Luke, and he said something about being pulling Asian girls after learning Game, and felt unsatisfied.  “I could have gotten you without game. I’m not getting a chance to use my game” (If Tubby can pull like Patrice and Biggie did, he’s someone to learn from.)

PUA has always been about the yellow and red light girls.  In fact, the green lighr girls who get taken for granted, often need a surgical touch.

At some point, i’ll do a point by point refutation of Models.

5 thoughts on “I’ve Always Hated Models by Manson”

  1. Are you wia from roosh v forum? I have been read that forum since teenage . Im just curious on black guy game that you have said white guy game focus on self improvemnt so much whiele… black guy game use verbal skill and women see” light “in him that different from other alpha like
    The jock ,bad boy ,popular guy at high school etc , im forget ‘ how’ it differ.anyway im appreciate.

    1. That’s me.

      I’d probably be a little more descriptive nowadays.

      Let’s just talk about the avenues

      In general,
      1) Regular middle class white guys think they need to be born attractive, work out, dress well, make money, be funny and be nice in order to get girls.
      It’s rare that these guys actually do all of the necessary work to increase their general appeal. A lot of modern Red Pill is basically “Do the Work”.

      2) PUA guys (mostly white) – started with that baseline and realized that – a lot of them had those things, but they weren’t getting the types of girls they wanted to get.
      Through communal discussion, comparing notes, and testing of theories – they basically came up with Pick Up Artistry. PUA has gone through a lot of permutations.

      The key insight of PUA is that if you meet some minimum threshold of acceptability (i.e. don’t stink), changing behavior towards women changed your results with women.

      I can’t stress how groundbreaking this was. Cause most guys, even if they lose weight and get muscle, dress better – they don’t really change how masculine and symmetrical their faces are, and they don’t get taller.
      So if acting differently changes something that nobody thought was changeable, that’s something MAJOR.

      It’s a truism in all cultures that this is the case, but PUA demonstrated it.

      3) There’s a 3rd set of white guys
      – Pretty boys – they have pretty faces, either very feminine or very masculine, with most young girls having a preference for Young Brad Pitt’s face not Old Brad Pitt’s face. This is raw primal attraction.
      – Jocks – This is just primal attraction, health markers + “swagger”. That is the nonverbal communication of dominance.
      – Popular Guy – Often a pretty boy, often a jock. He has “social status”. This isn’t always primal attraction, this is because girls are very attuned to social hierarchy, and will attach themselves to the “chief of the tribe” Dennis Kucinich is a perfect example of a guy that can get attention from chicks and then leverage his personal charm to reel them in. (Popular Guy and Man with Power often overlap – but man with power can give you a Weinstein/Cosby situation versus a Clinton situation)

      – Street Fighters – Often pretty boys, jocks – but these are the bros that go to the clubs. Think The Situation from Jersey Shore. They might not be pretty. They might not have low body fat, but they make up for it with going out every night and grinding. Dick jokes, alcohol, fucked up logistics. They just brute force the whole thing. There’s a lot to be learned here. Bilzerian actually a street fighter. He talks about his game in terms of just talking to every chick and “turning over a rock”. He said something in an interview, where some guys will pull 2 out of 10 chicks, and he’ll talk to 100 just to get 4.

      – Naturals – These are guys that don’t have any “advantages”. They just understand on an unconscious level, what women’s nonverbal signals and communications are, and how to respond and work nonverbally.

      The natural “gets it”. He doesn’t take the chick’s “top level” behavior seriously. He focuses on her nonverbals, not her verbals. And he largely communicates on that level.

      4) Average Everyday Black Dude – Most of us.

      We talk about Game, with a capital G, all the time. Obviously we talk about women, but I mean Game in the sense of, these people telling us what to do, are selling us on dreams. We give them our money, our time, our effort, our intelligence, our talent because of some dream they sold us.

      The Preacher talks about heaven and the congregation ponies up their money.
      They take the bus. He has a Benz, paid for with their money.
      The Politician promises jobs for votes, but he ends up taking money for his election campaign from shady developers.
      The Boss wants all the employees to think of the job as a family, and to work hard. When EEs ask for a raise, suddenly there’s no family.

      This goes far beyond rapping to mini skirts at the club.

      What is Apple selling that Samsung isn’t? Why don’t people want to buy a Kia Stinger?
      How come no one really liked Hillary?

      The powerful and rich people in human society very much understand how people are persuaded.
      Even when we study these things in university – psychology, advertising, marketing, political science, economics – we don’t really get the “secret sauce”.
      Folks are always trying to put The 48 Laws of Power into practice. Few can, despite the millions of copies sold.

      I’m sure some level of Game discussion happens in other communities, but it’s given a name and discussed a lot in ours.
      And we don’t mean on some high level, like with Congress and shit, but everyday interactions.

      How do you stop a cop from killing you?
      What can you say/not say to even get the interview?

      So coming into the dating arena, a lot of brothers are at least game aware. They might not have any, but they understand that a man can make a woman feel a certain way.
      Giving her the feelings of wealth, of freedom, of opportunity, of sexiness, whatever – is the equivalent of actually giving her a purse, a car, a vacation.

      And if he does, she’s running to give him whatever she can offer. That’s why I say that Last Minute Resistance starts in the first minute.

      Understanding the idea that she really wants “feelings”, she wants “hope”, she wants to “anticipate”… He can supply those things, provided he has game.

      If he improves himself the conventional ways, the brother can usually make an even more “persuasive” case.

      1. The powerful and rich people in human society very much understand how people are persuaded.

        This guy
        https://infogalactic.com/info/Edward_Bernays
        literally wrote the book. He wrote several books, two very relevant.

        Crystallizing Public Opinion (1923)
        https://infogalactic.com/info/Propaganda_(book)

        Both are still in print. Buy them off Amazon, hehe! When I first read them I was smacking my head like Homer Simpson, I thought I knew the tricks and the game but there’s always a deeper angle.

        Bernays was involved in getting the US into WW I in 1917. He also worked on getting the US into WW II. He also helped overthrow the government of Guatamala in the 50’s.

        He also is the man behind bacon and eggs for the American breakfast. Not joking. Bernays also did more to increase cigarette consumption with one event than any other advertising man, and it was all about preselection & female herding. It’s mentioned in the Infogalactic article, it’s pure genius, like “James Bond villain” genius

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