Game is for the Angry and The Indifferent

[Ed. Clearing out 35 or so unfinished posts.  This particular post came out of a discussion about whether game is for girls that like you or girls that are mean or indifferent. Is game for girls that instantly hate you, or don’t acknowledge your existence.  I think the actual question is more complicated, more nuanced – but I think that of all of these questions.]

Caring is Creepy

So you step up to a chick, respectfully, but definitely with your game tight.  And she like doesn’t want to hear it.

What’s up with that?

The truth is, most women do not want to meet anyone new (check out her Social Media – she already has plenty of “friends”)

Unless he ticks off the socially approved boxes or hits her invisible Achilles Heels (size 7) – she’s not that interested in some random guy.

How does she want?

She wants to meet someone that she’s been lusting after that’s ALREADY in her social circle. (A celebrity is also a good answer here. )

  • Guy at work
  • Guy in class
  • Her pastor
  • Her Yoga trainer
  • Guy in her corresponding fraternity to her sorority

Why?

Because he’s vetted.  She “knows” what he’s about.  A known quantity helps with her long term interests, but she’s probably had a chance to wonder “if” and fantasize about him.

The other thing about preferring guys in her social circle is that other girls (that she knows and respect/hate) want him. Thus she wants him partly because they want him.  But she also wants to be better than “all those other bitches”.  The Preacher’s Wife Dynamic.

“He chose me, and I rule all of you bitches through him.”

I’ve said this before, a lot of the social circle game isn’t about her personal pleasure, but causing pain to others.  Real pain sometimes, but more often imagined.  Or perhaps I’ve dated too many hot chicks who like to lord it over (or is that lady?) others.

I recently was chatting with a chick and talking about fashion, style and make up.  [Because that’s the kind of conversation I have with a chick who’s all looks]  She was saying that she was gonna pay someone to “do her eyes”.

The chick was cute or whatever, but then I asked her this.

Archie – “So you’re gonna spend 50 bucks for a professional to do your makeup for 1 event, right?

So what’s your return on investment?”

Thinking to myself some breast implants or some butt shots literally pay for themselves.  Most guys are more willing to spend on a chick if her body is RIGHT. What could she possibly get monetarily from being able to bat her full eyelashes at some dude.

“I get to slay”

Slay?  Da fuck?  I get to look good, and feel like I look better than everyone else.  All Eyez on Me

https://youtu.be/05PCmqjIeNE

Think about that. That’s what you’re dealing with.  To understand the “slay” mentality, you have to realize in her world – we (men) aren’t really that important.  What is important is her social standing with WOMEN.  Men? Who cares?

Because for an attractive woman, IT SEEMS like she can have a man/boyfriend at any point in her life.  It’s as complicated as opening Facebook.

Now the actual reality of finding a guy that meets her conscious criteria as well as the guy who knows how to meet her unconscious criteria is an entirely different issue – one that she doesn’t think about.

She just wants to slay.

She wants to “slay” because she’s in some sort of existential competition with other women, AND with an image in her mind.  Indeed, it’s less and less about the other women for most part – and more about this internal feeling.

With this self-centered/ego-centric  “slay mentality in mind” – where we are mere pawns in her game, where she’s striving for this unreachable goal – how do we adapt?

Game.

Game isn’t for the chick that is digging you and your look and feels good around you…. (See how I brought this back to the topic.  I let you understand a bit of the mentality of these chicks, and we use that to work on philosophy, then strategy, and finally tactics)

The short game is 3 basic phases.

Phase 1 – Getting her attention and actively doing something that attracts her to you

Phase 2 – Building trust, comfort, and rapport – because at this point, she’s in to your look, what you have to say, and probably 2 of 10 in terms of ready for “romance”.

Phase 3 – Is when you’re back at your place, and she’s ready to read the Bible.

The real juice is between getting her attention and putting her in a position where she’s seeking your approval and validation.  That’s the whole point of this blog, so i’ll only mention it once in this post.

So the question often is, when I step up to a chick – and before I get a word out, I can tell by her body language, that she wanted me to talk to her – do I have to do all this “stuff”?

Or more succinctly,

If she looks like she’s in to me,do I need to use game? 

And by game, most guys getting into this, think special openers, gimmicks, going direct..yadda yadda yadda.  For us vets, game is not just a way of life, we’ve fully internalized the principles to the point where we don’t think about it.

But to guys starting to wrap their heads around this thing, It’s an honest and open question.

So the answer is – Not really.

Phase 1 – The “Attention and Attraction” phase of Game is PRIMARILY for chicks that are rude to you, mean, or worse yet INDIFFERENT.

Before you can get her to share a hot fudge sundae with you, she’s has to be aware that you’re around – that means getting her attention.  And after you break into her mind space (because sure as shit wasn’t thinking about YOU – neck roll) – now you have to get a somewhat hostile stranger to be less hostile and open to communicating.

But if a girl is feeling you from jump, instead of going heavy with the attention and ice breaking – you make her invest.  I’ve said it before, having game is not playing games.

Let’s set the stage

  • I’m at a happy hour/martini lounge
  • It’s not too loud
  • Alcohol is flowing
  • Girls are sitting with their friends, standing by the bar
  • Chatting amongst themselves
  • Some folks on the phone

So I roll up on a solo chick with a phone in her face, eyes lit up by the LED.

  • I say “Hey” –  which grabs her attention
  • Attempt to open the conversation with a jokey cold read – “You’re doing one of two things, Pokemon Go or Tinder”

The reaction I’m looking for is 1) acknowledgment, 2) then somewhat of a smile, 3) a melting of the ice a bit. 4) her to say something that say she wants to play.

What often happens instead.

  • Glance up at me
  • Look back down at her phone
  • No more acknowledgement
  • Ignores me until I walk away.

Happens all the time to top players.
A chick’s first line of defense is to pretend you aren’t there.
Especially if you don’t have the look of a guy that she wants.

So what do I do?

I say Hey, AGAIN. And then I launch into a story – basically whatever happened to me that day that I thought was interesting, and that she could comment on and take part in.

If you make it a general practice to explain your day in the most humorous and interesting way possible you can turn a trip to the drug store into an adventure.

Why do I do this? Because attention getting and attraction building stuff is for chicks that are indifferent or hostile.  All the stuff you’ve read from 90’s till now isn’t stuff developed for girls that like the way you look and your vibe.  It’s for chicks that wish you were Jessie Williams.

Now how do I know to keep going?  Why don’t I stop?

I know that most of the time, these chicks aren’t going to swing at the first pitch. And I’m okay with her not being into me from minute 1.

I don’t want to use the “P” words – persistence/perseverance, but my actions move in that direction. I believe in myself. And I also know that it takes people a second to warm up.

Having seen guys with better game than me, I’ve noticed that they get their best results by staying in what I thought were “impossible” situations.

  • Super negative/name calling feedback
  • Being completely ignored, being indifferent.

Watching this stuff go down with a vet, my social cues sensor was like – YO, THIS IS GETTING MAD AWKWARD.  Pull up player, you bout to hit a Mountain of No.

Until it turns itself around.

Now these guys were never to the point of it being autistic. A real player has the verbal chops and he’s just lightly hammering at a chick until she gives him feedback (positive or negative).

That covers the indifferent, what about the negative?

If you argue with your girlfriend, there are times that she’s so mad, that it becomes comical. You can switch that anger to laughter. So negative feedback is one of those things that are good.

So let’s recap.

“Game” – i.e. all those openers, attention getters, routines are for the angry and indifferent.  If a chick is feeling you from jump – the game you use there is to get her to invest, which we’ve talked about previously.

When met with indifference – you keep going.

When met with anger – you find it amusing – and then convert it to laughter with the chick.

Hmm, makes me think I need to write more on the mechanics of both.

-Archie

One thought on “Game is for the Angry and The Indifferent”

  1. This is a great post. Lots to think about.

    A few things I’ve been kicking around.

    When you’re just starting out and don’t have any kinds of skills, it’s better to look for the easy girls. The ones you say here a player doesn’t need Game for – in the opener drop a neg sense.

    I see cats all the time go out and miss easy cues that he can pull off of.

    Handling a chick that is in to you is just a basic skill and even if you learn to flip girls, if you can’t close then none of it matters.

    So you’ve figured that part out, and you move on to going for girls that don’t know you exist and every once in a while you run in to a chick that doesn’t want to know that you exist.

    Staying in whatever convo really is key though because almost anything will turn around if you’re just having a good time and being a bit cheeky.

    I’ve gone for running a judo on negative reactions by going more negative. Flatline is the thing to avoid.

    Thing is that with fly girls in the scene I’m already proofed out and the fun friendly not to be trusted cause he’s fucking my friend type.

    All the negative reaction is basically a front for the social group and then when we get 1on1 true colors come out.

    I figure it’s similar with girls in the club when you step to her and she’s not having it. She’s putting on the front for herself or her group and it’s mostly about breaking that down a little by teasing her or poking fun.

    I don’t find the wholly straight up bitch on a solo girl though. It happens a lot in groups where it’s one girl speaking for the team.

    I’d be curious to see some numbers around a typical open how many are warm reception vs cold vs don’t talk to me creep.

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