Do You Even Need Game?

 

I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again.  If you’re aim is to meet a couple of girls and take them back to your place for ice cream and what not – super strategizing game is overkill.

In regular life people connect when

  • Tipsy guy approach tipsy girl
  • He says his little spiel
  • She likes what she sees and hears or doesn’t care and
  • He manages to gets past all the bs to get her back to his place.

That’s not really game, because she’s making that decision based on what she likes, with little to no input from him.  All he is doing is making himself available.

The thing to keep in mind is that she could choose someone else that night who’s more to her liking.  It just so happens that Mr. Right didn’t make his way over to her, and the guy she ends up talking to is good enough.

Chicks bang guys that aren’t their personal 10’s, they do so regularly.  That’s essentially the norm.  And if you consider things on a superficial level- how much time they put into their appearance vs how much time he does – it’s hard for a girl to not date “down”.

Why does she get with Mr. Okay?

  • Maybe it’s her time of the month
  • Maybe it’s her birthday
  • Maybe she wants revenge
  • Maybe she’s not feeling attractive (This is an interesting one, I need to make a mental note on this. But the game theory a lot of us work with – is that girls often reach outside of themselves to figure out how to feel.  That’s good leverage to have on chicks.)

And all of these reasons are totally fine. There’s so many women out there that go home by themselves because most guys don’t even go out. And of the ones that do go out, they often refuse to meet even the low bar of presentability, approaching her, and attempting to connect.

For above average results, the average looking guy with average socialization probably just needs a makeover to look “cool” and a month of going out every night to get over his approach anxiety with cute girls.

From a veteran’s perspective, whatever you teach that guy is not game, but placebo. He’s got a few lines and some basic idea of where the interaction is going to go.  He’s off the races.

So what’s happening here?

As we say in my neck of the woods, he’s getting chose.

In all honesty that’s what most guys need, even if our culture has made normal hooking up damn near illegal.

Money?

How much does average game really cost?

  • Do you have a place of your own?
  • A car?
  • Can you afford to go out,
  • pay some cover charges,
  • Pay for parking
  • Buy a few drinks?
  • Own a pair of jeans that fits you
  • Some shoes from Aldo

That’s basically all the “wealth” you need. To be fair, that might be more than the average college guy. But if you’ve got a middle class job, you’re pretty much set in terms of money.

Having a phat downtown crib in some cosmopolitan city with a private roof deck with a pool, tastefully decorated, and a drop top Benz, bespoke and designer closet just isn’t necessary.

Consider that most of these 18-22 year old girls are living with roommates (often it’s mom and dad) and driving Hyundais.  If they’re doing better, it’s because the parents have money.    What a young girl wants more than “provisioning” is fun and excitement.

Girls that are slightly older may be in the work force and have what you have or more – but she can’t see your Junior One Bedroom at the bar.

Having the “lifestyle”  and dating girls that are of marriageable age (23-28) that’s counter-productive. They see a cool guy with stuff = marriage material. Suddenly she’s got to be in her best behavior and pretend she’s not a “fun girl”.

In terms of other typical attractors

  • Lifting weights helps a tiny bit.  But being slim is better than being fat.  Having obvious muscles is better than being slim.  Getting to bodybuilder frame is beyond overkill.
  • Being tall helps get you attention.  If you’re not tall (which is now 6’3″ and better.  Damn you kids and your better nutrition)
  • Actually knowing people in the scene, helps far more than both of those in my experience. But local “fame” comes with going out a fair amount and making the effort to meet people. Get on a few promoters lists, know some bartenders and dj’s, and keep track of events in town – and most guys would get more pussy than they could handle.

Take some photos of you looking cool, put them on your instagram/tinder profile, come up with a few messages – you’re basically the Hugh Hefner of cute chicks.

That upper echelon of chicks that guys fantasize about, the “I only date CEO’s and Rockstars” – most of the time you’re not even going to be in the same room as these people.

So rethink your dedication to the game thing.   Look a little better, go out more, and you’ll have the conventional relationships with cute girls that you crave.

But you just don’t want the norm do you?  In which case, keep reading

-Archie

8 thoughts on “Do You Even Need Game?”

  1. Depends on where you’re starting from though, right?

    I mean, that was the basic conceit of the PUA scene, guys who were below average, or way below average in some cases, most often in the socialization department had “suddenly” (and we know it took a lot more work than that) figured out how to get access to the pussy they were never supposed to have. And I think that’s the basis for the outrage at them. Makes perfect sense in red pill land. Now you see dad bloggers taking potshots at “negging” like people are still doing it, and reaping social validation from that somehow.

    I would have been perfectly satisfied with what you outline in this article, but somehow I took a left turn in life and then by the time I’d had my first taste of Choice I just couldn’t go back to being a square, looking for a square, hoping to breed some squares. Most of my youthful angst and misadventures could have been solved with a basic understanding of Logistics.

    Too late now, I crave depravity.

  2. Yes, that would have been fine for me if I’d figured out that much in my youth.

    But once I’d had a taste of Choice, it was too late. Now I crave variety and depravity.

    Archie have you done a post on Dunning-Kruger Effect in game yet?

    1. For the readers Dunning Kruger is –
      “low-ability people cannot objectively evaluate their actual competence or incompetence”

      I haven’t done an explicit post on that.
      I think most guys that talk about it, use it as a cudgel to beat themselves.

      I’m more interested in “weaponizing” it (although I hate that term. Getting together with a chick is cooperation, not competition)
      It’s often used in financial transactions to harm the party that thinks they know everything.

      How do you put a chick into a situation where
      – she vastly overestimates her competence
      – there is a nice bible study at the end for the two of you

      The shooting range date is a bit like that. Great for my red pill guys and my city slicker players.
      She thinks it’s cool, but unless she’s shot guns before, she won’t realize the feelings that it’s gonna bring up in her.

      The reverse happens too.
      Zoo/Circus/Horseback riding dates – animals are smelly.
      And if you read the bible on the beach, you can get sand in the pages and on your bookmark.

      I’ll have to think on that one. Briffault’s law is another common request.

      Briffault said that no relationship happens if the female cannot find benefit.
      Because guys spouting this stuff on Briffault. have very poor imaginations.
      Benefit clearly becomes something tangible, and that just leads to them talking about money and spending.

  3. nice write up, feel like far too many guys really overestimate game, yes it absolutely will help you out, but in the end it is still a numbers game and the more girls you hit on the more likely you are to be that lucky guy who was in the right place at the right time

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