Started From the Bottom

So the scenario presented was that a guy really down on his luck had these qualities
– Early to mid 30’s
– Fat, Poor Physical fitness
– Career not going where he wants
– No ladies
– Spends too much time online
– No good friends
– Smoking, drinking, etc

Honestly, this isn’t really a nightmare scenario.  This is pretty typical.  Most of America is obese, and all of us are slowly sliding into poverty.  Given how much porn, video games, online, food, and alcohol is out there to not make you think about your own situation – this is DEFAULT.

So if a dude like that was looking for game advice, what would you say?

The comments on the thread were the standard Red Pill advice. Mainly that he needs to get in shape in order to get girls.  Always remember that PUA did that already.  PUA already figured out that getting ripped, jacked, shredded, etc was not the promised land.  You can go to various body building forums and find all sorts of forever alone posts and lots of guys who generate attraction but don’t know how to handle women.

BUT…let’s not throw out health and physical fitness as being unimportant.  Far from it.  As I get older, health and physical fitness is far more important to me than it is to get girls.  Chicks are easy though not straight forward.  Health is straight forward, but not easy.

In terms of the game, I’ve seen guys basically transform themselves thoroughly by picking up a physical activity that was a little bit competitive and a little bit social.  The competitive aspect keeps them going when other guys who go to the gym for vanity purposes give up.  It’s not about looking good, but about performance.  It’s part of the reason that Cross Fit was so popular initially. (Now, if you talk to some people, it’s basically a cult.  It’s female cousin is Soul Cycle)

The social aspect is really about talking to people you don’t know, but have this artificial common bond with. That develops your social skills in a good environment.  (It’s not a good idea to try to pull from this nascent social circle because you have no skills.  But friends of friends are fair game)

Training for a 100 mile bike ride, or a Tough Mudder, marathon.. etc. This would knock out a lot of the lifestyle aspects of game and optimize everything that most guys are looking for.

Though physical fitness doesn’t solve the women problem directly, it does build a good base upon which to make the next move.

Indeed, metamorphosis can give you the sense of potency to really try at the game.

So what’s the problem here?

It’s not like your proverbial couch potato couldn’t come up with this plan. In fact a lot of guys that “have it all together” have done this. The next step of meeting a few hundred women, scores of dates, a dozen relationships – is really just going out and opening your trap.  That’s all this ends up being anyway.  Going out and talking to women, and getting used to their pattern responses, and coming back with a better response that they aren’t expecting.

So all the information is out there. There are definitely more elegant and comprehensive solutions (personal trainer, bar tender, etc)

What needs to happen first before you go from chump to champ.

You have to get your mind right.

The first problem with guys learning game is that they go into it half way

It’s not just clearing out your fridge or getting a new hair cut.  Joining a gym and going to happy hour does not a player make.

The new guy already knows what needs to happen.

He just has to prepare himself to do it.  He has to get his brain behind his actions.

-Archie