I’ma chill on the whole SMV vs Game debate. Suffice it to say, if you ask me whether you should spend 10 hours in the gym, or spend Wednesday and Thursdays trying to pick up girls for 8 hours – I’m gonna say hit the night life.
If you’re a developer writing code so some snot nose trust fund kid can cash in – learning to push a girl’s buttons by practicing pushing girl’s buttons is time better spent.
But this does bring up some issues brought up in a post today.
Our society teaches boys that they have to EARN a woman’s attention, attraction, and affection. Especially if he doesn’t have one of the golden qualities
- Beautiful Face
- Height
- Right Race/Color/Ethnicity/Tribe/Religion
- Muscles
- Clothes
- Money
- Popularity/Fame
- Winning Personality
Some of the above you can change quickly. Some will take forever. Some require drugs or surgery. Others require a stroke of luck.
But the way the meta-narrative goes – is that you can’t get the girl unless you have some or all of these qualities.
And for the most part, that’s good for society. Society needs somebody to quote Reinsurance to big insurance companies. Society needs a guy who’s an expert on 18th century candle making. Society needed big strong me to be warriors, hunters, and eventually laborers.
So they pour this bullshit into your mind. Your parents to do it, your grandparents, extended family, neighbors, friends, school teachers, cops, tv, movies, songs…
And to further motivate the young mind they show young boys that men who do these things, have these things, they get the fame and money…and the women.
Indoctrination at its finest.
So the question came up, how do you raise your sons with game.
I’ve actually faced this in my personal life. A few younger siblings are at various stages of development and I’m not exactly sure how to broach the subject.
To some extent, telling a high school kid how to get girls on his team seems like a bad idea. At that age, you don’t have much self control, you never think anything bad will happen, and you can end up in some serious stuff. The game really doesn’t get awesome until AFTER college, if you ask me.
But knowing what I went through, and what I see other guys go through – so many of them are wedded to these false promises that society gives them.
Work Hard and Work Out Hard – and the chick will beat a path to your bed. I thought to myself, only if I try harder, can I get noticed…
But that’s not really what happens at all.
One of the things I struggle here with every single post is trying to define game. Because to talk about what’s wrong with society’s plans or how to raise a son/deprogram a family member – I need to have a good definition of game. It’s definitely applied psychology. It’s definitely bigger than just picking up chicks – but those are broad and intangible ideas.
I often turn back to structures that I think most of you guys get. Mystery’s A-C-S model is very convenient. If you knew nothing about Mystery/PUA and went out tried to pick up girls cold – you’d find the exact same things.
You’d see the guys who work out and look great not attracting the girls that are their visual equals. All of us know a rich guy that throws his money around trying to get people to like him.
A lot of my black readers know tons of ripped dudes and tall guys that should be pulling the local equivalent of Beyonce/Rihanna/Blac Chyna, but instead you see them getting drug by chicks that look like Precious.
And all of that mismatch comes from bad programming.
Specifically these guys don’t
- Know their own value
- Know what chicks really respond to.
This is on top of the biological need to plant seed that makes you blind to faces.
So when you’re raising a young’un those are the top two things you need to teach him from early on.
Of course “I’m black and i’m proud” and “I’m Vietnamese and i’m beautiful” …and all that type of stuff. There’s a fair amount of racial programming that goes on in our society, some of it is by stereotype and other times it’s by not being represented… We’ll get into that later.
But when your boy gets caught up with one of these little strumpets, and she’s having him drive her around and do all this stuff for her – all for the whiff of some vajajay – that’s a boy that doesn’t know his worth.
You have to fuck a fair amount of chicks to devalue pussy, let’s be honest. But it doesn’t take long to figure out that you’re getting used.
So if Archibald Westmoreland had a son, Chesterfield Rakim Westmoreland. – Rakim is going to see Archie handle himself.
So this is called Rich Dad, Poor Dad because the great thing about this book, which Malcolm Gladwell also explored in one of his books – is that parents can explicitly teach children life lessons.
In Gladwell’s book, poor parents that took their children to the doctor never asked the doctor questions, and they never let the children ask the doctors questions. By contrast, well-to-do parents not only asked the doctor about the treatments prescribed, they made their children come up with questions to ask the doctors. They built this into their children to be able to talk to authority.
Kiyosaki, in Rich Dad, has all these lessons where his own father, Poor Dad – got all these degrees, and kept trying to climb the ladder that society set up. Where as Rich Dad, his best friends father, was a business man. One of the lessons that stands out is he hired the two boys to do some terrible work and paid them next to nothing to do it. I think it was moving old boxes of comic books. They were so angry and fed up….and they quit. While they were gonna tell the old man the news, one of his real employees walked in and had to basically grovel for some money. After the employee left, the boys demanded a raise or they were gonna quit. So Dad fired them. Then he explained why his real employee was always broke, and that paying him more wouldn’t help him. (I might be jumbling this up. sure some of you have read this thing, it’s been out for like 20 years)
The real employee worked for his money. He couldn’t really do much to raise his pay. But Rich Dad was able to leverage that employee’s work and raise Rich Dad’s pay. The real money wasn’t in working for someone else. The real money was in capital. And having a workforce at your disposal was capital. (Might be some other lesson, but go with me)
As the father to a would be player – you essentially have to deprogram your son.
They tell you that women respond to money and muscles, but the guys that are really out there making it happen aren’t all rich buff guys. Some are to be fair. If you hold everything constant, that’s what girls choose on their own. That’s what they’ve been programmed to choose. They really don’t know any better. They feel things for other guys, but they really don’t know how to express what it is they feel. So they too reach for tangibles, like height and snappy dresser.
And if you ever bang a Doctor’s wife, you’ll find that she got married to a rich man that’s never home. And she’d trade the wealth for someone to be there. The lifestyle doesn’t make her feel like she thought it would – but she’s put on the golden handcuffs and until she figures out how to live on half – she’s stuck. And the doctor will be clueless.
The father of a young player teaches his son through example that what people say they want is one thing, but what they actually respond to is something else. This applies throughout life, but especially to girls.
The blog is young still. So maybe if I ever cross that path myself, I’ll explain what I’m doing.
-Archie
This stuck out from your post on the forum:
“I was at Sports Authority with my little brother. (High school aged)
I always pick the cute cashier if one is available.
“Did you find everything you were looking for?”
That’s something she’s been trained to say. I know there is a genuine person, a teenage girl – but she’s in work mode.
So of course I ask her where were the curling stones.
Obscurity worked here, and banter ensued
So my brother was like “Did you know that girl? ”
Of course not, but I know she’s a person, and I just need to bring that out of her.”
This is one of the greatest and most important lessons I have learned from game.
You need to bring the personality out of people.
Life is more enjoyable if you learn this and use it in your day to day interactions.
Mos Def, it’s a big part of the game.
I don’t get the SMV vs game debate. A player should work on both in my opinion.
Some elements of your SMV you can’t change (e.g. height), some you can change only long-term (e.g. your status), some you can change mid-term (e.g. confidence, dominance), some you can change short-term (e.g. your looks).
Every player should maximise his looks to a reasonable extent. At least fix your teeth and skin, preferably no (big) belly. Improving your confidence and dominance takes a bit longer but are key for good game as well in my opinion. Improving your status is optional, but not necessary for a player.
I think that working on your body and hitting on girls are not mutually exclusive. It shouldn’t take 10 hours per week. Instead of doing a high volume workout routine you can opt for a high intensity full body workout twice per week. That’s only 2 hours per week.
More than the visual aspect of working out, working out is a great short-term confidence booster.
I think a lot of people agree with you. Most guys that have gotten to the game in the last 5 years, where personal improvement is a big part of the mantra believe the same things. I got into the game at the turn of the millennium. I’ve been skinny, fit, and fat. I’ve been making the bare minimum to hitting a nice 6 figures. I’ve gone from T-Shirt and Jeans to Suits and Ties. All these things that guys say you should be working on – i’ve already done.
I can tell you from experience. I can show you the experience of other players. I can show you guys who have all that and get nothing, and guys who have none of that and get a whole lot. Self-Improvement is a secondary factor in game.
For game purposes, like you want to put effort into meeting and bedding women – self-improvement is a poor return on investment as compared to working on meeting, talking to, interacting with women.
Self improvement is for SELF, not for women. What all the various SMV factors do is raise your profile. And if a chick is thirsty, she’ll choose you.
But a girl choosing you is NOT game. This is the one area where the pimps get it wrong.
A skilled salesman, lawyer, negotiator isn’t using his suit to close a deal. He’s using psychology. That’s what the game is. It’s why when I go to clubs, I see scores of 6’3″ fit dudes playing the wall. Those guys should have no problem closing deals – but they have their own messed up internal psychology. When you do see them approach, or hear them – you watch their body language and the body language of the people around them – and you can tell just off that if they’re going to be successful. A lot of the time they aren’t. It’s because that 6’3′ dude really doesn’t know what he’s doing. He’s showing up, yapping, and the chick is deciding whether or not she likes him. Height is supposed to mean leadership and dominance – but that doesn’t come through if the guy is not leadership material, and if he doesn’t know how to convey it. So a chick who’s happy that this tall dude is talking to her, isn’t jumping on his dick. As much as these broads yap about tall guys, you look through their dick catalogue, and it’s a bunch of guys who aren’t tall.
Same thing with money. Broads say they want ballers and date thousand-aires. Routinely.
When you go out – you obviously see a tall good looking well dressed guy doing good with the women. But most guys never seem to look for the other guys that match that description who are getting zero.
At the same time, most guys don’t look for the guys who have nothing, but are doing well with the ladies. So they get this tunnel vision about what it takes to do well with the chicks, because they do not understand what game is.
If you’re not tall, you’re not rich, you’re not good looking- should you sit out until you become those things?
This is about bagging chicks, not about dropping to a single digit body fat.
And it’s important, because the sort of money guys think they need to make in order to attract women, is not mere mortal money.
– 4 years of college
– 2-3 years of grad school
– 40 hours regular time + overtime at the job/overtime on the side hustle
+ working out/eating right
And then he wants to play weekend Don Juan at the clubs?
He can get those rich/built results by focusing on learning the psychology.
You’re literally talking to chicks/interacting with them and pushing buttons and triggering responses. And this is not some magic mumbo jumbo, billion dollar industries are based on applying psychology that gets past the levels of programming and socialization.
That’s why I stress game. I’ve known fat players, short players, Indian and Vietnamese players, and poor ones. They get the chick because they give the chicks what they actually respond to, not the hollywood idea of what they respond to.
Absent any sort of game, the chick will gravitate towards the Hollywood stuff. Chicks take multiple choice exams when it comes to men. They can only choose the best that is offered.
Men can write essays. We can approach, interact, and hit all these emotional switches. The fact that we get to approach what we like is a huge advantage.