Month: February 2023

The community has a love/hate relationship with the London Boys.

And by Community, I mean me.

And by London Boys – I mean all the London Based Youtube artists that got popular doing day game in London, in particular Piccadilly Square.

Tusk, in particular, is an obviously good looking, in shape, generally well dressed dude.   I honestly think his PUA style is more street brawler than MMA artist, much less sniper or drone pilot….

He’s had some HORRIFIC day game videos.  But he owns up to it.

Salute!

That said, I keep tabs on him, Fluid Social and pretty much any of those guys.

This particular number pull is in Argentina

In terms of armchair pick up analysis

The Young Lady

• • She’s got a good BMI
  • Decent style,
  • Nice hair

I ASSUME about her

• • The face is on par with the rest. (Not always a good assumption, good from afar can be far from good)
  • Not a gringo hunter.
  • Not a Prepago (or is that Prepaga? hmmm)
  • Not staged (Tusk has enough videos of things going horribly wrong that he’s built up enough good will with me, to think he’s not trying to put one over on guys)

This is where most pickup skeptics hate whenever they see something even slightly positive for a player.  It is what it is.  If you’re here, you’re probably a fan of the crimson arts (c) Mystery.

Tusk

• • Tall-ish
  • Good looking
  • Built
  • In a foreign land
  • he doesn’t speak the language/doesn’t speak it well.

This could EASILY GO EITHER WAY, just on the raw facts.

What happens in this case?

Spoiler alert – gets the #.

Clickbait Alert – she gives him a kiss – which means something different to us unaffectionate/atomized/cold westerners.

https://youtu.be/BCu_Xzic26o

Why is this 2 minutes of pick up interesting?

• • She’s not giving him anything to work with, just based on what he looks like
  • He has to plow.
  • He has to plow in a different language.
  • He can’t speak the language.

The hardest type of girl to deal with is the indifferent.  If she’s mad, scared, angry – that can be flipped.  If she’s warm and bubbly, that can be magnified.

When she gives you nothing, do you keep talking?  Especially when you have nothing to say.

That’s where experience comes in.  That’s where inner game comes in. 

It’s clear to me, at least, but also to Tusk – that he doesn’t have the gift of gab.  In the intermediate/advanced/veteran/pro/instructor/guru levels of game – the words themselves largely don’t mean anything.  Provided that you don’t say anything that the chick can plant her flag on (which is what Todd did in a old NYC bar pick up that I had linked, and he’s since deleted – nothing to do with me, I guarantee) – you don’t need to really say too much significant.

She could have kept it moving, when she realized that the cute gringo is an airhead.

But for a brief moment in time, she was moved enough to exchange contact information.

Will this turn into a date?

Into some romance?

Who knows…

But I gotta give props when I see some decent game on YT.

Moma* once asked this question.  (coiner of the term lizards)

Why do so many pick up artists/game teachers move from pick up to politics?

I would add to that observation that PUAS move from picking up women, to sales, to politics, and to self improvement.

• Roissy
• Roosh V
• Rollo
• Mark Manson (aka Entropy, who has pretty much disavowed his old identity)
• RSD as a whole, RSD Max in particular
• Style/N. Strauss to some extent

I don’t think I’ve made that switch.  I guess I’m sort of “one-note” when it comes the topic of “How to talk to girls at parties”.  But hollaring at broads is “evergreen”, and I’ve thought a lot (aka way too much) about it.

I think part of the reason guys make the switch, aside from the bigger dollars and higher respectability, is that Sales, Business, Politics, Self Improvement/Self Development are just easier to talk about.

With pick up, especially really granular things like “what should I text back..” they are difficult to answer.  I try to come at things with good faith, and assuming a lot about the encounter.  That’s not always right, cause guys ask things, I give answers, and they add in additional facts that change the solution.  As has been said, it’s Pick Up Artistry, not Pick Up Science.

But…

Part of something I’ve seen with a number of seducers and pua’s – is that adding those non-pua elements into their styles, into their lives, can get them better numbers and higher quality*.

*Quality is a euphemism for hotness.  Higher “quality” does not coincide with other ideas of what makes a high quality woman.

As a result, a lot of those things outside the “core curriculum” filter back into the space.

One of those is Path and Purpose.  I swear RSD said this first, and I’m betting it’s from Tony Robbins.  (Much like “take massive action”)

But path and purpose has been repeated by plenty of folks like AMS, like Fresh and Fit.  Both of those guys are in the Red Pill/Manosphere communities.  Whether they want to be in them or not, that’s who they’re associated with.

In the short game – i.e. the cold approach for an SNL – what does path and purpose mean in a practical sense?

Does path and purpose mean that a man needs to show a girl path and purpose in set, in order to increase attraction, increase trust, and possibly increase arousal?

To ask the question is to answer it (c) Obsidian.

I’m already anti-DHV story.  I am pro-DHV in the set.

• • Telling a good story is a DHV.
  • The story being a humble brag is not DHV.  (and by humble brag, it’s the innocuous detail that you include in the story)

Some of the worst advice that is common in the community is “the girl wants to hear you/see you be passionate about something”.

She doesn’t.  And whatever dj, sky diving, mountain climbing, car racing thing that you’re into – most girls don’t care that much.  They might like your costume, your archetype – but the details of which generally are not important.

And if your hobbies are RPG’s, video games, underground aka unpopular music, or having the entire Riley Reid discography in your Raid 5 array – keep that to yourself.

So where does purpose come into play?

In my opinion, 2 areas.

The lesser area is that she learns something from you.  All of my Exes can now cook.  They could not cook when we dated.

The greater area is that if the girl does not match your purpose, does not support you, help you to make it happen – you have a real moral and masculine justification to kick her to the curb.

Q. Do men need purpose?

Probably.

Q. How do you find your purpose?

I don’t know.  Looking back at the hobbies/pursuits/interests, along with what we do for money – those things are not necessarily a “purpose”.

For you Last of Us fans out there (currently broadcasting at the time of this writing) – one of the most poignant episodes is about a man finding his purpose in providing for his partner.  It was a really good episode imo, but this idea that he found his purpose in his partner, and did not have purpose prior to that…

I found that to be curious, to say the least.  Not to deny that we are social animals, but the message….I dunno.  Something rubs me wrong about it.  If you swapped out the “partner” for a wife and children, I’d still feel some type of way about it.

Is this purpose?

https://youtu.be/UWBOBQm3bFI

 So the scenario is

• Night Game
• 2-Set
• The chicks are into the conversation
• Early in the night
• He wants to dance (and keep the vibe going)
• They don’t want to dance, because no one is on the dance floor.
• Player doesn’t drink
• Girl offers to buy him a drink
• He Declines
• He misses the texts from the girls, whilst he’s dancing.

What did he do right?  What could he have done to salvage the situation? 

Stuff He did Right

• • Night Game – if hooking up is the goal, short of flying into a new country, this is the best bet.
  • Approached and got into the social hook phase of the 2 set – fearless, demonstration of social skills
  • Apparently got the phone # during the 2 set – A very smart move, as most guys will bounce after getting the phone #
  • Has the ability to dance.  – I think this is essential for night game, but others differ.  In a world where most guys can not dance, much less want to, this is a relatively easy “unfair competitive advantage”.

So in terms of a night game interaction, this has a good start.

The real practical problem here is what to do with an interested 2 set early in the night. 

But the Rookie is concerned with not responding properly to the drink offer…

It is very symbolic for a girl to offer to buy a man a drink.  But a lot of girls are not intentionally playing a game of symbols and gestures.

As players, we can only guess what’s happening in the chick’s mind. 

Even if you were to ask her what she’s thinking, chances are very good that 1) she would have to think about what she was thinking, 2) she would tell you something that makes her look good.

In my experience

• • She’s not consciously thinking to herself, if She buys a JB and Coke for this guy, he’s going to be more interested…
  • She might be the drink buying type of female. (rare)
  • She might be trying to do some reverse psychology, and seeing if he will swap roles with her and get 3 drinks  (not as rare, but still not the norm – unless you’re in a place that’s full of Pros)

But more likely, unconsciously, she’s added him into the “circle of friends” – that circle only exists for the night.

The cute girl is probably getting dozens, if not hundreds, of male-to-female interactions on any given night.

Per Chris Rock, anything a man does for a woman is an offer for some D.

David Buss (#1 Evolutionary Psychologist) – offers that women not noticing a man’s advances is part of how she’s able to cope.

Because we will never know what a girl is thinking, because she might not know, and because she will be deceptive (as all humans are that try to game the system) taking a favorable interpretation of her actions, allows us to move forward.

In this case, even if he thinks that he did not react properly, his mind for the game should tell him that – that was a positive signal, and I should go find those girls in the venue and reconnect.

Came across the Reddit Feed, my first time hearing it.

In this current era of pick up, I mean dating skills for men, the RSD mantra of “Path and Purpose*” has become mainstream.  *I’m betting this is originally a term by Tony Robbins…

AMS uses it.  Countless others do.  A little less obvious is Kevin Samuels and him putting a name on “select men” – calling it High Value*. (He was right in his definition, though often muddle.  Everyone else is pretty much wrong, imo.  A high value man is not something you call yourself, it’s how society sees you.  Who does society value?)…

Enough preamble.

Part of Kevin’s description of the HVM is that his path, his purpose, his dream, his calling was 1st in his life, and everything else was second.

Kevin – “Do you want to be in a household where you don’t pay any of the significant bills?”

38 year old single mom with an MPH – “Yes”

Kevin – “Well do you know what being with a man like that means?”

Enter Lipstick Alley – which is my favorite place online.  RIP to Female Dating Strategy.

https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/could-you-marry-a-man-obsessed-with-ambition.5160048/

Sparked by Tom Brady and other guys losing their relationships to “work” – Women who’ve dated men on the way to high value, or are high value, opine.

And boy do they opine.

The answer at least on the first page, is 90%+ of them do not want a man that’s obsessed with succeeding.

Here’s what Uncle Shay had to say about it, being a High Value Man himself.

@clubshayshaypod

real truths here 🙏🏾 #ShannonSharpe

♬ original sound – Club Shay Shay

0:19 – 1:07

Parent to Girl Covering her ears

Don’t aim for a good looking boyfriend okay

The average looking one is fine

You should look for someone who likes you

Not someone you like 

I think Rollo would call this institutionalized feminism.

https://academia.stackexchange.com/questions/192977/need-help-with-students-whove-turned-my-class-into-a-dating-service

And in case it gets deleted, i’ll just cut and paste.

I’m a professor at a local university. I’m passionate about teaching, and am proud to teach 100-level science and mathematics courses to young and aspiring students.

Some senior engineering students created a sort of dating service/app, “How I Met My Future Wife” (not the actual name, but close enough). It advertises itself as a way for smart young guys to meet “potential marriage material”, by helping them social with “young, cultured, educated women”. It works by aggregating diversity data my university publishes. This data is intended to help make a case for having more women and minorities in STEM courses so that post-university, we have more diverse representation in the worlds of science, business, and engineering. These senior engineering students used it to create a database of courses that are statistically likely to have a large proportion of young women from certain cultural backgrounds.

The stated goal of the app is to produce a list of courses that would be easy for engineering majors to excel in effortlessly, where the majority of the class is young women that would not necessarily find the class easy. It basically puts engineering majors in a position to ingratiate themselves with a large pool of potential “mates”, and even guides users through getting reduced tuition or even taking the course for free (i.e. “auditing” a course; take it for free, but it doesn’t affect your GPA, so as to prevent students from gaming the system and boosting their GPAs with easy courses).

A number of 100-level science courses are having record levels of senior-level STEM students auditing these courses, and a number of female students have approached me, noting they are disgusted and uncomfortable with the amount of “leching” taking place (edit: there are no unwanted advances, but it’s painfully obvious to some students what’s taking place). It’s also demoralizing several of them, since we routinely have cases where a young man is leading open labs as if they’re a teacher themselves (in order to “wow” their female classmates, offer “private free tutoring sessions”, etc). Some of the young students in my class take up these offers, and this further demoralizes other female students seeing this happen (i.e. only attractive women being offered tutoring sessions). This is further compounded by the condescension involved (i.e. one self-admitted user of the app told me “this material that others struggle with is so easy for me, and I’m doing it for laughs and phone numbers.”).

How can I stop this?

People auditing the course don’t have to take the exams, or attend regularly. They can showboat in a course that’s easy for them at zero risk or cost to themselves. I have no means to kick people from the course, despite this obvious behavior, and the people abusing the course can basically come and go as they please.

The university administration refuses to even acknowledge the problem exists (mostly, to my knowledge, because they don’t want to admit fault or harm being caused by publishing such granular diversity reports), a few fellow profs either find it comical, or are happy that open labs are so full of volunteer tutors (perk to them, I guess). It seems that all parties are ignoring the young students I teach. I don’t know if there are any legal routes, and there’s no way I could do a public name-and-shame without jeopardizing my career. I’m at a total loss here.

Update

I scheduled a morning meeting with a senior colleague who has helped me with hard problems in the past (sort of the “go to guy” when things get rough). My husband and I had a long serious talk with him, and it’s been made clear the university won’t help me with this, as it would mean a “black left eye” for them, and I’d be tossed to the wolves on the left and right. If I want to pursue this further, I have to be prepared to forfeit my career, credibility (i.e. be black-balled in industry), and face lawsuits and SLAPP attacks from the university. With our combined salaries, my husband and I are barely making ends meet. My only real recourse is to counsel my students, while hoping that the app eventually gets more unwanted attention. In short, the problem will have to “solve itself”, while numerous female students endure even more adversity in STEM by a program intended to help them.

I’m trying hard to contain my laughter.