Month: April 2017

I just read this about our new robot overlords.

” In young infants, language builds on basic abilities like perceiving the world visually and physically, acting on motor systems, and understanding other peoples’ goals…

Beyond compiling pure data input, the mind filters, assimilates, and joins new information to memory to create and break patterns, as well as processing information through emotional and social filters.”

Why bring this up at all?  A key to a lot of the game is understanding the motivation and goals of the people around us.  This is where picking up women extends to control over the universe.  If you can discern what is on someone else’s mind by observing their actions, you can stimulate them in that way – and obtain results for yourself.

A lot of The Game is replacing the ideas that you think you understand any given woman’s goals by her actions.   Her actions, typically if you want her, do not really line up with the goals that YOU THINK SHE HAS.  Indeed, her actions don’t often line up with the goals SHE THINKS SHE HAS.   There is logic to what she does – if you understand what her goals are.

Brief Aside – This idea of “logic” also reflects on us Men. Chicks find us as baffling as we find them.  Topic for another time.  The teaser is that we do things to try to get “sex” from her that make no sense to her at all.   Further, there is a layer here where men/individuals have short and long term goals, both conscious and unconscious – that we are trying to align to achieve particular ends.  This may be the ultimate goal of game – to set all of your resources to accomplishment.

So let’s consider this scenario. Guy meets very hot chick on Bumble. Chick says coffee shop date only.

Keep in mind – A chump folds when these cards are dealt. The player plays the other players, not the cards.

Enumerating it..

1. The protagonist  went on the coffee date (against his gut feeling)
2. He goes to the coffee shop and intends to do a walkabout date.
3. But the chick has a “policy” to only go where people are.

Guy agrees, but is planning to turn it into a walkabout date. (Which is the strategy to use, with some caveats. Her behavior stems from earlier bad experiences, so trust must be rapidly developed)

So when he gets there, he attempts to venue change to nearby retail, and chick has a nonsensical policy about not going to places where people aren’t.

She of course doesn’t know her own psychology as most people don’t.

What they think and say they want is not what they actually respond to.

Because of her issues she ruins her own chance at happiness. She’s basically trapped in her frame, like a child scared of the dark but unwilling to use a nightlight. (In my mind the girl needs therapy.)

If you are into frames

– She chose him
– She chose the activity
– She chose to limit the action to the coffee shop

She basically constructed the reality and then used the environment and her will to stop the dude from progressing.  As a defensive move, this is quite smart – and plenty of girls will pat themselves on the back for screening in this way.

The obvious move here for intermediate to advanced players is to bring the “walk” to the coffee shop.  It doesn’t matter if she tries to limit the movement (the ability to get both trust through movement and isolation) – you can use the environment of a coffee shop to your advantage.   That means using group theory and merging sets.  Creating the atmosphere by using third parties to your advantage.

But our guy faces the typical situation.  The chick who’s all business, has a very boring Q & A conversation. We can only imagine the sub-communications between the two.  For you guys keeping score, this horrible environment is actually ideal for you work out guys.  If you can show off your physique in a tasteful way – that should be unnerving to a chick.

For my verbal guys, this is a straight up disqualification time.  “We’re totally not right for each other. *wait for reaction*…build on it”

So going back to the theme of today – of interpreting a chick’s actions to understand her goals.  Why did she set this situation up this way?

She’s gotten him to basically agree to her frame, a frame to protect her.  But that frame also to confines her.

If she did not think he was physically and therefore sexually attractive – he would not have gotten the coffee date in the first place.   But the environment is such that the only way for a guy to surmount her defenses (in her mind at least) is to be such an engaging personality that she loses sense of the world.   This is of course the ultimate goal of every player that focuses on the verbal game.  You almost want your speech to be hypnotic.

Objectively, what is the likelihood that she’s going to meet the Devil in a sportscoat with a pocket square, and get him to reveal his wickedness in a 15 minute conversation over Americano?

She’s wasting her time, even though she doesn’t realize it.  And women have a short time frame to truly operate.  That’s not patriarchy, that’s biology.

When you meet coffee date girl – Part of me wonders how much of her behavior was clinical or idiosyncratic and how much of this is in the realm of normal behavior?  Normal for girls at least.

The girl might be a one off, but the mathematician in me feels like there are particular solutions. This is the tool that you order from Snap On, because they’re the only ones that make it.

What was her goal here?
What did she expect to happen?

Subconsciously she expected magic. She would show up, do nothing, actively work against whatever he was doing AND he’d somehow manage to fix her.

This reminds me of the old chestnut about psychologists and sociopaths.

If a patient says that they’ve seen other doctors, the others haven’t helped, but you seem special.

This is how this situation reads.

This post is a bit sprawling, but the key ideas

1. As humans, from the very beginning, we learn how to interpret the thoughts of others through their actions
2. Game teaches us that our pre-game social programming is very bad at helping us puzzle out a girl’s thoughts and motivations through her actions
3. When a chick limits her own freedom here – the key is not to try and knock on the front door – so to speak.
4. She set up the situation to dislike you (thinking it’s neutral)- because she doesn’t understand herself or men
5. The options are here are to communicate on the level where she really is. Be it with your look, with your sub-communications, or using group game to gain leverage through third parties

-Archie

Debeguiled made a good comment on the last blog .   This is a bit of theory of technique/history of game type of post.   But he made the correct observation that clinical hypnosis tries to achieve the same sort of thing that verbal one-on-one game is going for…sorta.

The idea behind hypnosis is to use language, setting, and ritual to get a patient into a state that is conducive to suggestion.   “You’re getting very sleepy.  Now cluck like a chicken!”

In the game, the sequence is after you meet the chick, you run your attraction material (heavy on disqualifying yourself, heavy on disqualifying her, very much getting her to chase you – or in woman speak – flirting) – then she’s invested and wants to figure out what makes you so different.  You hook her on the conversation, you hook her on the randomness and her inability to pin you down, and then you up the ante and make her do more and more sexual things, in order to get more compliance.

So in essence and in practice, she’s suggestible.

Now in our sequence, after getting her into a cycle of seeking our attention and validation – we switch to trust.  (in Mystery model, attraction -> comfort).

The game is basically won in comfort with a skeptical girl.  You can troll a girl all night and get her to want your validation – but she has to trust you after she’s figured out that your personality is sexually appealing.  So not even the “sweet talker” phase, or the “Lot of Laughs” Lamar – but this guy isn’t a psycho type thing.

So the trust moves

• Break the touch barrier
• Stop touching her before she wants you to stop
• Meet her friends
• Introduce her to your friends
• Interact with 3rd parties
• Move her around the venue
• Stop for a pint of ice cream on the way back to your place, and let her see you talk to staff

You’re a normal guy, I will be safe now and still get to have fun.

Verbally, you’ve got the chick on the couch, she’s attracted, she’s interested – but one of the issues a guy faces is that – she may be attracted, she wants to talk, she’s okay with touch, she’s touching him – but that doesn’t mean they’re going to end up back at his place.   Them boys @ RSD describe this situation is the “sexual hook point”.  Where she’s participating.

But since we’ve been doing this from a different perspective – this is where the pimp game says that you sell her the dream, you put her in a bubble, just me and you, just the two of us.

 

So Debeguiled made the point that putting her in the bubble, getting that level of trust – we’re she thinks of not just her, but as “we”, – that’s approaching the a hypnotic trance.

And the history of PUA online starts in Ericksonian hypnosis, NLP (Neuro-Linguistic Programming) – and basically ways to get people to do things on a subconscious level through. 1) word, 2) setting/environmental engineering, 3) ritual.   When you look back at even the Mystery Method, his end game sequence involves getting the girl to light candles…  It’s not because Mystery is a romantic, but it’s part of a ritual.  And when she puts up resistance, he breaks the spell by blowing out the light.  It’s symbolic – but works on deeper levels.

So yes, I think Debeguiled is right – there’s something to adding elements from hypnosis to your game.  I think the best place is not during the attraction, but during the trust stage.

-Archie

[Ed. This a post that I didn’t finish from last year (got about 35)]

Every sentence I write makes me think about you, the reader.

What do  you need to know to come to the same conclusion that I do?

So I have to keep digging deeper to find examples that will click in your mind.

But that’s game.  I’m trying to communicate, express myself, and persuade.  I know from experience (and from work, lol), that breaking down an argument logically is one of the least effective ways to put somebody on your side.

In my process of writing a small game “pamphlet” for you guys to use is the same thing that goes on when you build an opener.

So in the last few weeks, I’ve come across someone else’s opener and modified it, and then also taken my reaction to someone else’s story and turn that into an opener.

The Swipe

I straight jacked this from a guy giving day game coaching sessions, and modified it to what I know about a girl’s social reality.

So a guy is at the mall, he’s walking through courtyard.  He sees a girl he likes.

Now analyzing the reasoning behind the steps.

Step #2 – You have to come at a girl head to head to do this. (that is facing her) Coming from the side or from behind is startling to a girl.  Remember you’re bigger and stronger, and she’s been fed all of this negative information about strange men.

When I devise an opener, I put myself in the girl’s shoes.  If I approach her – what can happen?  What will she be thinking?  In a negative light, and in a positive light?

Step #4 – Why doesn’t the guy say Hello, Hi, or Hey?

The guy doesn’t introduce himself, because that triggers a scripted response.  She goes on autopilot.

We want to stop the girl from going on autopilot and giving us default answers.  When you say “Hi” – she knows what to do to shut you down.  It’s not even conscious.  She’s “triggered”.  She goes on autopilot, the same way you go out autopilot when some dude on the street tries to sell you a mixtape.  (Odd how women respond to similar stimuli just like men)

Step #8 – He doesn’t explain, he lets it dawn on her.

This is what “opens” the chick.

So recap

1. Put yourself in her shoes when it comes to the approach.
2. Put yourself in her mind when it comes to what she thinks about, and how she thinks about it – when it comes to the content of what you’re going to say.
3. Does it show mastery of her world?

-Archie

We’ll get back to the comedy at some point.  Book 1 is still coming along.

This is Lessons from the Screen Play – a very good non-game source of game material.   Again, a point I will belabor – is that game is applied psychology.  So anything that tells you how the mind works, what the mind responds to, is uber useful when it comes to talking to the ladies and making connections.

The video should start at 4:38, but i recommend that you watch the whole thing.

Act 2 – The Premise – What the show is about at the core.  The Pilot conveys this to the audience.

The protagonist’s life is turned upside-down when X happens, so they decide to do Y.

A high school chemistry teacher finds out that he has terminal cancer and decides to cook meth in order to make money for his family

Walt’s decision here affects who he is and what decisions he makes in Act 3 Power.

Lajos Egri – “A man whose fear is greater than his desire, or a man who has no great, all-consuming passion, or one who has patience and does not oppose, cannot be a pivotal character.”

Act 3 shows how his desires overcome his fears.

The video goes on to say

“Standing here, Walt feels a kind of power — one brought on by the absence of fear“

Any light bulbs coming on yet?

“Television is historically good at keeping its characters in a self-imposed stasis so that shows can go on for years or even decades” – Vince Gilligan

So what GAME lessons can we draw from here?

In the movie that is your life – has your fear been greater than your desire?

I know I can say yes to this one.  And like all the t-shirts say, good stuff happens when I overcome my fears.

Since I’m chopping game here – that’s the inner game piece. If you are aware that you’re stopping yourself because of fear, that can help you move forward.

What’s the external game piece here?  How do I turn these words that give me power, into words and actions that help me connect with a girl?

It’s the thrill — for once — of taking risks.

Does this sentence not hit you in your core?  When you read that sentence, your mind goes to all the times when you let fear hold you back.  And also to the pleasure of when you let go and went with it.

Imagine reworking this sentence when you have your first *real* chance to talk to a chick.   Not during the initial little chat.

Along the sequence of

1. See the girl
2. Open the girl
3. Flirt with a girl
4. Deal with her obstacles and issues

Right after this point, is when you really start to connect with a girl.

If a player gets to this point during the meet, all he needs to do is keep the vibe going, call a cab, and have the girl go to your spot to make some cupcakes late into the night.  I like to meet girls at night clubs so that we can study Psalms.

So you’ve got the girl at the martini lounge.  She’s comfortable chatting with you in the booth.  What happens next is a done deal – but here is where you break out what you learned from Breaking Bad and writing television shows.

You start talking to her about how fear holds people back.   And when they drop the fear, they can do what they really want to do.   From there, you go into the idea of how “self imposed stasis“.

You watch TV? Me too.

What shows do you like?

I like this show, well I like 95% of the show.  But it seems like every week, the main character gets into the same sort of problems. That fills out the show – but it’s like the character keeps himself stuck in a rut.  If he would only change a bit…

So rather than the regular Bible session you have lined up with the chick – if she likes what you’re saying here, if you can draw her out, if she can give you examples of how fear held her back, how she feels like she’s keeping her own self down – and then how she didn’t succumb to fear…and how YOU can help her get past some of her fears …

Ask yourself how that Bible Study is going to go now, when she’s not only ready on a physical level, but you’ve made it okay for her to dig really deep and show more of herself because she’s no longer afraid?

The old school game of the 90’s/early 00’s was less efficient than what Mystery came up with, and not nearly as efficient as what we can do to day.  But a whole lot of old game focused on taking a chick “deeper”.

So that’s how you use Walter White in your game.  You know that his character was this nebbish guy getting pushed around.  He found himself in dire straits, and he did something about it.  He let go of his fear.   And teaching a girl how to let go of her fears, and to do what she really wants – that’s a key to making a better connection.

-Archie

Let’s just get right in to it.

So on the thread, the homie Comte is talking about the latest Dave Chappelle specials.  I didn’t realize I had an international audience, but Dave Chappelle is a Black American comedian noted for his general humor and his particular take on Western/American culture.

Comte is endorsing the the idea that Humor is a valuable lesson in the game.  There are some obvious push backs (look @ the wives of the top comedians out there – and generally they aren’t that attractive.  But same goes for most billionaires)

But I do think humor is very important to the game.  The easy reasons are 1) making the girl laugh is important, 2) making yourself laugh is also important.

Humor though?  Humor, in my terms, is about frame control.  The way a joke works is that you give the audience a believable premise, an honest premise, something that they know.   And you establish the premise.  But they know and you know that the SUBVERSION of the premise is coming.  There is some truth about what you’re going to illuminate for them.

But the audience accepting your premise is really accepting your view of the world.  When a comedian steps on stage, they can set up HORRIBLE premises – but the fact that he is a comedian – lets the audience just “Go With It”.

Let’s put some vids up.

 

 

For you guys really trying to expand your game in a deep way – you need to take in the RSD stuff (Who I love.  Don’t get me wrong.  Shout to them boys), but also these bigger more MAINSTREAM type videos.  Nerdwriter, and Charisma on Command are great – and they will get you to think about game the way that I do.

That game is advanced socialization.  That game is understanding how people think and feel, and then how they behave.  That then leads you to apply psychology because you know what is truly motivating people.

-Archie